Sure you currently have a global presence stretching from the South Pacific back to Europe, but you also have a history of walking away from conflicts - or just rolling over...

Wow wow just don't get into that.Half the world including french did the bloody part  in WW2 long before US decided to come out from  the island of isolation/"we don't give a damn". And don't even speak about WW1. And French are not the only ones who got bogged down in Vietnam.

So please hold the statements like that!

I think it is quite surprising that a lot of US readers consider that USA (which define themselves today as an ally of France) would side our ennemies grabbing our land.If

 

What the F### are you talking about? are you drunk or blind. Go check back and see who made the 'surrender' comment and don't ever put my name out there again like that!

Sure the US turn up late and claim the glory, but they French also turned up late... WWII could hae been held off in the mid 30's if the other European powers had some back bone. The US and Japan also suffered in Vietnam's fight for freedom too, but i hardly hold them in war winning esteem either, one win in Grenada puts them ahead of France's statistics for the same period... BUT the US never lost their country to an occupying force.

And by half the world, really you are talking about the British Empire on the Allies side, as by the stage France had surrendered, the Soviets still held onto their non aggression treaty. France had conceeded before things really heated up.

I apologize it was "Albywan" not you that wrote that...my bad.

apols for regressing - but on another issue, ie the definition of cold launch and hot launch for SSBN's.

I think there is a loss in translation.

cold launch is a water/hydrology  initiation, hot launch is a propellant initiated ejection.

it doesn't matter about the ignition process sans ejection.  it refers to the ejection process. 

Sure you currently have a global presence stretching from the South Pacific back to Europe, but you also have a history of walking away from conflicts - or just rolling over...

Wow wow just don't get into that.Half the world including french did the bloody part  in WW2 long before US decided to come out from  the island of isolation/"we don't give a damn". And don't even speak about WW1. And French are not the only ones who got bogged down in Vietnam.

So please hold the statements like that!

Bogged down by a peasent movement....

Yet the Surrender Monkey's here seem preoccupied with their technical misconception on the value of their military...

 

It's about will to fight, something the fall back frogs haven't exhibited a lot of in recent times...

While I'm not a big fan of France, especially after 9/11, it's worth pointing out that the French can fight as well or better as anyone else.  One might note the Battle of Bir Hakeim where the FF Brigade fought with more determination and elan than any other allied unit during the Battle of Gazala.  The French Corp under General Juin was the key player during the Fourth Battle for Monte Cassino and fought heads and sholders more effectively in the mountains compared to any allied unit; moreover Juin was a brilliant commander.  One could list many other examples up to the present day.

 

This aside I shall never forgive France for 2003.  Once your figure out the US is going anyway making it harder just so Chirac can score some political fantasy points is unforgivable and one can only hope he dies soon and in agony.  There is no question Chirac leading the opposition to the war contributed to Turkey's descision not to allow us to deploy in the north which clearly made the operation more difficult and made grabbing regime leaders take far longer than needed.  All Chirac did was get a lot of people killed including many Americans and prolonged a conflict he clearly knew was happening no matter what.  If I die never buying a thing from France again that will be fine and don't believe for a moment millions of other Americans feel exactly the same.

 

In any case if I feel the need to defend French honor then somebody has gone off the reservation.