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Subject: Last member of Hitler assassination attempt - RIP.
Nasty German Idiot     5/8/2008 1:10:23 PM
Baron von Böselager, last member of the officer group who tried to blow up Hitler in 1944 died a short while ago aged 90.
 
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Nasty German Idiot       5/8/2008 1:12:10 PM
 
 
 
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The guard of honour of the German Bundeswehr carries medals and badges of honour after the requiem mass for deceased resistance fighter, Philipp Baron of Boeselager, at Sankt-Laurentius-Church in Ahrweiler, Germany, 08 May 2008. Boeselager was the last survivor of the inner circle of the resistance group, which had made an attempt on Adolf Hitler's life on 20 July 1944. The member of a German noble family, Philipp Baron of Boeselager, had passed away in the night of 31 April 2008 at the age of 90
 
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Yimmy       5/9/2008 9:37:47 AM
If Hitler had been killed we may not have won the war.


 
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Herald12345       5/9/2008 1:20:08 PM

If Hitler had been killed we may not have won the war.


Depends on when he was killed and who took over, Yimmy. Early on? Braubitsch, Goring, and Himmler weren't too bright. Later? Doenitz and Speer [still true believers] were deadly possible opponents from mid 44 onward.

Herald   

 
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Wicked Chinchilla       5/9/2008 1:59:23 PM
Doenitz was a hardcore believer?  I was always under the impression that his loyalty was to Germany first and the Nazi's well after that. 
 
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jastayme3       5/10/2008 2:58:03 AM



If Hitler had been killed we may not have won the war.



Depends on when he was killed and who took over, Yimmy. Early on? Braubitsch, Goring, and Himmler weren't too bright. Later? Doenitz and Speer [still true believers] were deadly possible opponents from mid 44 onward.

Herald   

We would still have won the war. Just had even harder work about it.

 
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beersheba       5/12/2008 9:32:28 PM
Gring would have struggled given he was a morphed up, fur coat-loving, bloater by that stage. He did have brains though but he would have needed to go on Nazy Germany's Biggest Loser reality show (imagine that. ``Herman, no more strudel for you butterball!'' and a morph addict program. He was quite a perfomer at the start of trial after the war but Jackson got his measure. Himmler is a different prospect all together. My opinion, and it's only an opinion made 60 years down the track of course, is that he certainly wasn't a dummy. Sure, he had some ``loose'' ideas (aside from genocide), he did think he was Henry the Fowler reborn and he liked the occult and playing dress up at his castle, but he was a cunning bastard. Actually with Himmler at the healm, I don't think any of us could predict what would have happened. Would he have pushed for peace with the western allies and a continued war against the Soviets? Hard to see the Allies accepting that deal. They didn't in 45 but those were deseprate feelers and not from Uncle Adolf.
 
But the Allies would still have won in the end.
 
Strewth, after reading back over that lot, I don't think I have contributed much to the topic at hand!!   
 
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timon_phocas       5/13/2008 8:38:31 PM
Philipp Baron of Boeselager, 

Rest in peace, sir.You showed the world that, even when ruled by a vicious, totalitarian monster, honor can shine brightly. 

timon phocas
 
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