Hi guys this is my first post, im pretty novice in my knowledge of military matters so i hope i can learn a lot from you, i just read Anthony Beevor book's stalingrad, which is an excellent historical book, i just wondered that what if Germany at WW2 has F-16s instead of me-109 and M1a2 instead of PzKpfwVIH tanks and Tiger tanks, would the outcome of the war in eastern front would be different?

No difference.

 

Given that the Germans couldn't properly supply & maintain the equipment they built themselves, I'm thinking that anything from decades in the future would be out of service fairly rapidly. The F-16s would be reduced to sitting on the tarmac, the tanks to immobile pillboxes to be bypassed by functional Red Army equipment.

 

Oh, a bit worried about your username too. Hope it it just a mistranslation from another language.

I'm with Alexis, although in this case I'd assume he's more of a rascal making fun of people posting wild "what if" questions, than an actual "troll" himself (and as such I actually appreciate his sarcastic post).

 

What the heck, I'll play.  Everybody is right, of course, but let's assume for a second that F-16s and M-1A1's just "magically" appeared in the Germany military during WWII.  For the sake of this scenario let's say some Nazi scientists figured out how to time travel and sent some agents to the 1990s where they were able to buy a squadron F-16s and a battalion of M-1 tanks, and then somehow bring them back to WWII Germany.  The only way they would be of any use to the Germans is if they also brought back pilots to fly the planes and tank crews capable of operating the tanks.  Not only that but they would need to bring back support personnel that would be able to maintain the planes and tanks.  Then they would need to bring back fuel and armaments for the planes and tanks as well as the equipment required to maintain and repair them. 

 

Now if they had all that, then I guess you could say that the F-16s would definitely have an impact.  They would probably seriously hinder the allied bombing effort, since nothing in the allied aresenal could even touch them, barring lucky shots.  The M-1s would be equally formidable, but the problem with them is that you would need too many of them to halt the Red Army onslaught.  They would be able to wipe out any tank in existence in the world before they were even in the other tanks' range, but an M-1 can only carry so much ammo and can only go so far in a day.  A fleet of F-16s and an army of M-1s would win the war or at least prevent defeat, but at maintaining them would have been impossible for WWII Germany. 

M-1's would be out of action very quickly. Although WWII weapons would not stand a chance of piercing the armor of the M-1, they could certainly take out a track or a couple road wheels and get a mobility kill. So unless they happened to bring back some spare parts and technicians with them, they would have no chance to repair such advanced technology.

M-1's would be out of action very quickly. Although WWII weapons would not stand a chance of piercing the armor of the M-1, they could certainly take out a track or a couple road wheels and get a mobility kill. So unless they happened to bring back some spare parts and technicians with them, they would have no chance to repair such advanced technology.

You may be right, Mr A-Destroyer may have been merely sarcastic.

Reminds me of an old thread I started quite some time ago on this board:

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