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Subject: U.S. trying to thwart Rafale sales -French minister
The Lizard King    2/19/2008 12:38:01 PM
PARIS, Feb 14 (Reuters) - The United States is seeking to undermine France's efforts to sell its Rafale advanced fighter jet, French Defence Minister Herve Morin said on Thursday.

The Rafale is a next-generation, multirole combat aircraft, and has been a flagship programme for France's arms industry, but has yet to find an export buyer.

Morin last year criticised the Rafale, saying its sophisticated hardware was hard to sell against cheaper Lockheed (LMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) F-16s, but on Thursday he sang its praises and said France was determined to find a foreign taker for the jet.

"It is an exceptional plane, a remarkable plane. It's a plane that perfectly matches the needs of a modern army," he told France 24 television in an interview.

Asked why France had thus far failed to sign any definitive contracts, Morin said: "There is considerable U.S. pressure that prevents us from selling the Rafale and there is considerable foreign competition. There are the Russians, the Americans, there is Eurofighter. We live in a world of hyper-competition."

Libya is the only country believed to be close to signing a contract for the Rafale, but Paris fears Washington could effectively veto the sale by threatening to penalise companies which provide hi-tech components to Tripoli.

The 34 billion euro Rafale programme has been shortlisted several times by other countries, such as Morocco, but orders for the Dassault-built (AVMD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research) jet so far have been confined to France's own navy and air force. (Reporting by Crispian Balmer; Editing by Richard Balmforth and Quentin Bryar)

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FJV    Well, yes   2/19/2008 12:52:17 PM
By building better planes
 
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Wicked Chinchilla       2/19/2008 1:05:54 PM
Interesting choice of words.... U.S. "Pressure" instead of U.S. "Competition."  Its like they are blaming the failure of the Rafale to secure foreign orders on kickbacks or what not instead of the fact that in head to head competition Rafale's competitors came out ahead. 
 
*sigh*  No one takes responsibility for anything anymore.  "It cannot be that the plane doesn't meet there needs or is too expensive for what you get, its that the other guy cheated!!!"
 
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Ehran       2/19/2008 1:16:23 PM
given the bucks at stake in this it would be far more of a shock to find gov'ts weren't exerting pressure to favour their own manufacturers.  the usa simply has more ways to do this than the french.
 
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Phaid       2/19/2008 1:28:14 PM
Wait -- you mean that the U.S. government, which is funded by U.S. taxpayer dollars to further U.S. taxpayers' interests, is using its diplomatic and economic influence to help secure business for U.S. taxpayer-owned companies, thereby providing economic benefit to the U.S. taxpayers?  THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
 
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Bluewings12       2/20/2008 11:22:34 AM
lol Phaid ! I agree 100% with you . The USA has the right AND the duty to win markets .
Morin should better keep his mouth shut and try to learn how to please potential customers ...

OTOH , nobody should use bribes or blackmail to get contracts .

Cheers .
 
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Photon       2/20/2008 3:37:05 PM
I think the days of dozens of aerospace firms selling dozens of aircrafts like selling hot cars is long gone.  The only practical way for most manufacturing states to procure a significant number of warplanes is to colloborate with close allies, as the R&D alone is hungry for capital as hell and the need to have a lump of allies to get to gether to reduce the unit cost.  If you want to design and sell on your own, probably the most optimistic scenario is that of the Gripen -- you are not going to have a chance with big firms, and instead you have to settle with niche markets.  Even the most monstrous of the aerospace firms cannot do all by themselves.  To add headaches for those like the Rafale, a large number of states do not even necessarily need top-of-the-line stuffs, especially those from the 3rd world.  They will find second-hand F-16s and MiG's more attractive, provided that they are reasonably well refurbished and considarably cheaper, too.  Not to mention that apart from predominantly US-led wars, there is not much of a demand for top-of-the-line fighters.
 
Perhaps drooling and going crazy over top-of-the-line fighters a bit too much is something less than a smart thing to do?  After all, if anything, not-so-hot flying thingies like cargo/transport, AWACS, and maritime patrol aircrafts are the ones who deserve more attention as many of their fleet are getting pretty old, and these big boys can do essential jobs than no hyper-fighter can possibly do.
 
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