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Subject: Gun Porn: United States Navy Mark 14 Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle (EBR)
HYPOCENTER    2/6/2007 7:30:29 PM
Gun porn, you know you like it. This week, it's the M-14. I'm so in love with this weapon I consider it to be a national treasure. Anyway, it's still in use by some services. And I know the SEALS still use it (It's been updated of course) which says quite allot. Without further ado, here are photos of the the most bad-ass looking assault rifle in the world, Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR: (see post below)
 
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HYPOCENTER       2/6/2007 7:39:23 PM







 
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Yimmy       2/6/2007 11:13:15 PM
What a way to ruin a nice looking rifle......
 
I hate all these modern rails systems and gadgets.  The M4 is a prime example.  The only decent looking AR15's are M16A1's with the smooth handgaurd.
 
If you want a nice looking M14, buy a Norinco, mind unless you are lucky you will have to replace the stock.  I have seen a few pics of nice Walnut ones.
 
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HYPOCENTER       2/6/2007 11:49:50 PM
Wow, i'm surprised you hate it. I thought everyone would love it. Granted, the original M-14 was a beautiful rifle. Still is. In fact, it's the last of the old-type battle rifle designs. Given that context, I think the modernization program (EBR) has successfully breathed new life and turned it into a modern beauty.

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stbretnco       2/7/2007 12:22:16 AM
The US Army is issuing M-14s as a designated marksman weapon to units in Iraq.

AFAIK, the only mod on the Army M-14 is the addition of the Picatinny (sp/) rail system for sights, etc, otherwise it retains the wooden furniture.

 
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Rasputin       2/7/2007 1:05:12 AM
I don't mind all of them, they look like they would be more flexible than the original 1950s style, my only doubt is the 2nd gun, the one with the M4 carbine M16 stock, since u do not need the buffer spring, I don't see the need for M16 parts.

There is no bullpup configuration though, I am not to sure if the Norinco has a cheap bullpup M14 in production, they already have a cheap AK bullpup, but that is labled a cheap knock off, the Israelis also have one, but it is none too popular.

I guess the United States do not like bull pup rifles, but if some thought had been put into it, it will be interesting to see what kind of Americanized M14 bull pup can result form Lake city aresenal or Springfield.

 
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Rasputin    Always wanted to ask   2/7/2007 1:16:11 AM
It seems that the M14 mechanisim and platform is really stable and accurate, so much so that the M14 with a scope can even be used as a sniper rifle in the SVD class.

But for such a promising platform, why is it that when down sized to the 5.56mm in the form of the Ruger mini 14, the accuracy of the 5.56 is inferior to the M16????????

Could a longer barrel provided better accuracy for this reliable platform?

 
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RockyMTNClimber    MINI 14   2/7/2007 3:03:31 PM

It seems that the M14 mechanisim and platform is really stable and accurate, so much so that the M14 with a scope can even be used as a sniper rifle in the SVD class.

But for such a promising platform, why is it that when down sized to the 5.56mm in the form of the Ruger mini 14, the accuracy of the 5.56 is inferior to the M16????????

Could a longer barrel provided better accuracy for this reliable platform?


I think that Ruger does not build them for accuracy. It is a very good gun that is sort of the AK47 of 5.56's, it retails in US$ for around $550.00 +/-.
 
If you were willing to give Ruger $1,250.00 a copy for them I bet they could give you a higher quality barrel and action that would be very competitive with any 5.56 out there.
 
Check Six
 
Rocky
 
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Zerbrechen    Rasputin   2/7/2007 3:09:54 PM

It seems that the M14 mechanisim and platform is really stable and accurate, so much so that the M14 with a scope can even be used as a sniper rifle in the SVD class.

But for such a promising platform, why is it that when down sized to the 5.56mm in the form of the Ruger mini 14, the accuracy of the 5.56 is inferior to the M16????????

Could a longer barrel provided better accuracy for this reliable platform?


   A good question, one which I wonder about myself.  My Mini 14 seems to have an added quirk of chucking brass.  I walk to check my targets and drive to pick up my brass!  Nobody that I have spoken with seems to be able to get better than "pie-plate accuracy" from them.  One guy I know is really meticulous in is reloading, down to same types of brass, same brass thickness, etc. and still doesn't get much from his mini 14. 
   An M-14 with a scope on it (and better stock)  is an M-21 sniper rifle, used in Vietnam.
 
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Lawman       2/7/2007 4:06:45 PM
It's pretty funny to think that the EBR is, ultimately, a derivative of the old Garand rifle! It certainly has a healthy following - I suspect a lot of troops would be happy with the M-4 series if they could have a couple of M-14s added into the mix (i.e. one SAW, one M14, an M4 with grenade launcher, and either another M4 or another M14 depending on the mission). For Afghansitan, add a few M14s to the squads, which is probably a better idea than trying to go entirely for 5.56 (which lacks range) or 7.62 (which is too heavy to carry enough of)!
 
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Ehran       2/7/2007 4:52:42 PM
is it just me or does the one guy in the picture look rather squinched up trying to fire that rifle.  it really doesn't look comfortable.
 
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