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Subject: Rob-Arm M96
Yimmy    10/21/2004 12:23:20 PM
Not that I mean to come across as some kind of nut who pervs over pictures of guns, (I have kept that secret well hidden), but has anybody hear heard of the Robinson Armaments M96 assault rifle? From what I can see, it is damn near perfection where a family of small arms are concerned, and would make a great replacement for the current weapons in service for both America (M16, SAW) and the UK, (SA-80, LSW, Minimi-Para). This site has all the details, including videos of stripping etc. link The weapon has ergonomics as good as the M16, and they claim it to be as accurate while having the reliabilty of a kalashnikov with its long stroke gas piston. Now, without actually using it who knows if these claims are true, but its operating system is up there with the Italian Beretta AR70/90 and the Swiss Sig 550; it having its return spring rapped around the long stroke gas piston. This means it effectively has one part less than most rifles, there being no recoil rod assembly. Using the one stock and a few add-on parts, the weapon can be a standard assault rifle, with many options for scope rails, forward handgrips etc, or it can be a top fed LMG along the lines of the Bren Gun, where large banana magazines can be used while keeping a low profile, or they claim they can make it into a belt fed SAW type weapon. All versions have a quick changeable barrel, so can be used in the sustained fire role, or can have the barrel replaced with no tools to become a carbine length weapon. It is basically a more modern version of the Stoner M63 weapon which the US Seals used in Vietnam; what do you think??
 
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Yimmy    RE:Rob-Arm M96   10/21/2004 1:10:30 PM
As a side note, the only real problem with the rifle that I can see, is that the bolt hold open device doesn't seem to hold the bolt at the rear on an empty magazine, and the c0cking handle isn't fixed to the bolt carrier, so it can not act as a forward assist..
 
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lennard    RE:Rob-Arm M96   10/23/2004 5:19:49 AM
Looks like a one-of-many rifle. Making a bad rifle these days seems difficult to me. A G36, AUG or a IMI Tavor are more interesting I think.
 
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eon    RE:Stoner 63 lives!   10/27/2004 2:24:09 PM
The "Robinson M96" is nothing but a 9admittedly nice-looking) reproduction of the Stoner 63 infantry Weapon System, designed by Eugene Stoner (who also designed the AR-15/M-16 family of rifles and LMGs) for Armalite division of Fairchild Aircraft in the early 1960s. The Stoner was tested by the U.S. Army in 1963-64, as a possible alternative to the then-new (and controversial) M-16. It was found to be more than adequately reliable (more so than the "16" due to its gas-piston sysytem vs. direct gas-impingement on the "16"), as accurate as the M-16, more tolerant of ball powder (the "16"'s Achilles heel), and easily convertible to any of iits different roles (rifle, carbine, LMG, GPMG, or even vehicle MG with extra-heavy barrel and solenoid trigger for coaxial mounting). It was heavier than the "16" fully-loaded, but lighter than an M-14 with a full 20-rounder. In the end, the "63" was used only by the U.S. Navy SEALs. who found it stood up to immersion in salt or fresh water better than an M-16; they used it mainly in the LMG/SAW role, where it was more efficient for their missions than the M-60. It's nice to see the old girl back in production, but I'd prefer they give credit where it's due..
 
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eon    RE:Stoner 63 lives! PS   10/27/2004 2:25:46 PM
Oops, almost forgot; if you want a modern weapon that does almost everything the "63/M96" does, and weighs less, check out the Heckler & Koch G36..
 
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Yimmy    RE:Stoner 63 lives! PS   10/27/2004 3:08:05 PM
eon, I did point out that it was just an updeated version of the Stoner system I think, and I believe Robarm do give credit to the origional weapon in their history setion of their web-site. As for the G36, I do not believe it can do anything near what the M96 can. The G36 is just a standard assault rifle which can come with different barrel lengths. It can not become a top fed weapon nor a belt fed weapon, it does not have a quick detachable barrel, and it lacks the modability..
 
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