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Sniper Bait RE:FN FAL vs H&K G3A3- P.S. 1/9/2004 2:10:00 PM

Hope last post wasn't too disjointed. I have was recalling a myriad of personal memories, opinions, and information that was passed onto me. In case you haven't seen it yet the SOPMOD m14 can be seen at link I think Troy offers to convert commercial m14 copies too.

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Worcester RE:FN FAL vs H&K G3A3: JROTC/ChdNorm/Sniper 1/13/2004 3:44:17 PM

Very interesting posts. Just five adds:- (1) Some of the early FAL's (and SLR trials models) had a mag/clip charger built into the top of the dust cover. You could use the bolt hold-back device (just above the mag release) and charge the mag with 5-round clips through the top while the mag was on the weapon; think it was meant to copy the M-14 but never saw any issued with this facility. Only used the charger which you slip on top of the mag for 5-round clips. (2) The 30-rd mag for the L4A1 7.62mm "LMG" (bren conversion from .303) I have used successfully on the SLR but with due care...the instructions state it should be used in emergencies only since the mag springs are designed to feed top down (bren style) and may not be strong enough to feed bottom up. Worked for me! (3) The mag release on the FAL/SLR I found a lot easier than the M-16 - guess it depends on your hand size. Part of the reason for the strength may have been our habit of carrying the FAL "hands free" across the lower body with the pistol grip and mag wedged behind the right front ammo pouch and the but under the right arm pit; effectively it was resting on the trigger guard and potentially the mag release. Again though, I never had a problem. (4) Left handed ing - if you've just switched to a fresh mag with you left hand, much quicker to with the left hand also. I know some people just found the left-hand pull a little tough, but I loved it and especially those chunky working parts slamming back - very reassuring! (5) You can re- the FAL/SLR very quietly - you just have to judge the springs right. During battle prep we always followed a 1 (handle out), 2 (pull back), 3 (release) routine for arming the whole patrol together so the bad guys can't count your rifles.

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winter soldat RE:FN FAL vs H&K G3A3: 1/14/2004 10:41:07 AM

i served in norwegian army special unit(viking innsatsgruppe 2) my main weapon was an g3a23(ag3-2 called in norway) the thing i have to say g3 vs fn was that fn was practily useless in 35 grader celsius below( british commando on joint nato exersise with us have to borrow our g3s becase fn jammed for hrd weapon oil

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Worcester RE:FN FAL vs H&K G3A3:winter soldat 1/14/2004 12:42:43 PM

Pure auto anti-freeze freezes at -40. I only ever got down to -20 in using the M-16, FN and G3; we assumed that below -35 you just survive! Below -20 the FN instructions say you should use graphite oil. Were these FN probs with or without graphite oil? Was it the gas piston or the working parts?

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oke 1/12/2011 9:14:09 PM

The FAL has a poor reputation in sandy conditions. Other than that, both are fine.

In 1974 I was in Turkish Air Cavalry Brigade and equipped with Turkish made G3A3 ..our Infantry Brigades landed with G1 Fal `s

Greeks and Greek Cypriots armed Fn Fals and Ak 47 series

In first 3 days of this Blitzkrieg ...forces ratio was ;!!!!!

1 Turk against 5 Greek and EOKA militia and some other auxiliary Greek Units

July and August hottest moths in Mediterranean mountains ?heat and dust !

3 days 2 night w/o field cleaning non stop plinking !!

G3 vs. FAL and AK 47 wars .

After Math;

All Turkish Army totaly switch to G3 within year !

Turkish G1 FALS sold to the world surplus markets and interestingly given as bona fide to the Christian militia of Lebanon..

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cwDeici 1/13/2011 3:53:51 PM

From the computer games I've played G3A3 seems a bit more effective.

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Privateer 1/15/2011 5:28:21 AM

From the computer games I've played G3A3 seems a bit more effective.

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One aspect which made the G3 cheaper (an important factor, especially if you want to produce a rifle under license) and more attractive than the FAL was its stamped sheet metal construction. The original FAL receivers were milled from forged steel blocks which made production expensive. FN later switched to investment-cast receivers in order to reduce production costs.

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southernred93 12/17/2011 4:43:59 AM

I have an STG-58, the Austrian variant of the FAL, and I will say this; it is one of the smoothest weapons I've ever fired. I don't know much about the G3. To me, it looks like a stretched MP5 with a bigger round. The FAL has more combat experience under it's belt, it's extremely easy to take apart, it's still in use by 90+ countries, and is a design that you can beat the hell out of people with if you needed to. I will admit that it isn't the ideal rifle for CQC, but it is an excellent medium- long range battle rifle that is just as reliable as an AK. It was actually in competition with the M-16 for the US military at the beginning of Vietnam. The reason it wasn't chosen? Well, I think it was because the M-16 was an American design whereas the FAL was Belgian. But I know that both fire the .308(AKA. 7.62x51), the G3 is lighter, the FAL is bigger, and that both are still in use and have seen combat. So really, it comes down to your personal preferences. I love my STG because it's the only semi-automatic tactical rifle I've been able to hit something 600 yards away with, so I will admit somewhat of a bias. But, you can't go wrong with a .308 either way.

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