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Subject: Australian Cruise Missiles
PuckaMan    8/26/2004 10:59:56 AM
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Have a look at this. This has the potential to be a sh*tstorm regionally and domestically for some weird reason. Aussie posters here will pretty much say the same thing - Our defence, our decisions. We do not have to justify such a procurement to the region, and Indonesia can go and....... well, I think you know the rest.

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AlbanyRifles    RE:Australian Cruise Missiles   8/26/2004 11:23:06 AM
Looks like a good idea to me. Its not like you guys are as tied to them as we are with Canada in NORAD! As a friend of mine would say "Screw them and feed 'em fish!" but he would use a different word to get some illiteration going!
 
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gf0012-aust    Australian Cruise Missiles   9/1/2004 7:58:12 PM
We could always just convert the Kalkaras and then innocently use them for long range strike work. They'd be an interesting suppressor concept, anti-radiation under one wing, and a maverick under the other.
 
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boris the romanian    RE:Australian Cruise Missiles   9/2/2004 12:29:07 AM
LOL, just so we can tell the Indonesians how much we love them, shouldn't we invest in a half dozen Bones, Blackjacks or Backfires?
 
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southern cross    RE:Australian Cruise Missiles   9/27/2004 10:19:12 AM
i am sick of indonesia, they are giving me a headache. if they dont start a war with us, then they wont have any need to feel scared, if they do want to start a war, then screw them all the way to hell, and send them there with our new babaies. this is the Royal AUSTRALIAN Air Force of the AUSTRALIAN Defence Force, we decide what fireworks to buy, and all those aussie politicains who are complaining about agressing the neighbours then screw them to, strap em to a missile and let em first hand witness a test firing. Screw indonesia, i dont recall them asking us permission when they armed the East Timorise militia.
 
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doggtag    RE:Australian Cruise Missiles   10/2/2004 2:48:15 PM
Give 'em hell, boys! Politicians are far more effective at crippling a nation's military than any strike an adversary could throw at you. I got a fat list of cruise missiles for you: How about the Longhorn, a Maverick variant that had a small turbojet and triple the range of the original Maverick? F-16s can carry TLAMs (Tactictical Land Attack Missiles: Tomahwak knock-offs) under the wings, so certainly AP-3s and F/A-18s could also (450+km with various warheads.) Boeing at one time proposed the AGM-131 SRAM 2 in tactical form (weighed about 1000kg) for F-111s and B-1s, armed with a roughly 250kg warhead (based on the weight of the W80 and W90 nuke warheads) capable of Mach 3+ speeds over 400km. Many you all could coax the Russkies out of the plans/productions rights for the 300km, Mach 5 AS-16 (NATO name "Kickback", or Raduga Kh-15.) This could hold a 150-200kg warhead, and the speed advantage here is obvious. There are a handful of European platforms, capable of both supersonic flight and a few hundred kilometers range. Should Oz opt for the AGM-142 weapon, certainly a small turbine could be put in instead of the rocket motor, and ading another foot or two in length (for additional fuel) would give you easily a 300+km range. And AVIBRAS of Brazil was developing a guided version of its SS-300 rocket (basically, a SCUD-sized, 36-inch diameter beast with a range of at least 300km with up to a 1000kg warhead.) Depends on the deterrent factor you are looking for: covert, low observable cruise weapon? Or high-Mach, semi-ballistic, high altitude screamer that most likely has no counter weapon yet? Maybe an indigenous Aussie cruise missile that "borrows" the guidance section of Tomahawk, Harpoon-SLAM, or any particular latest generation US or European weapon? .
 
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