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Subject: The Elusive American Drug Epidemic In Afghanistan
SYSOP    6/17/2012 7:58:59 AM
 
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Robert Walther    Bob Walther   6/17/2012 8:41:55 AM
Apparently the growers of opium poppy in Afghanistan are paid very little for the poppy crop/latex itself. The profit grows as the juice is processed through morphine, illegal opium and heroin. The profit becomes astronomical as the illegality and criminal/political psychosis enters the distribution chain. Simplistic solution: pay the poppy growers for their product. Generate the needed pharmaceutical quantities and destroy the rest. In the remote realm of Afghanistan poppy farmers, this would certainly reduce the flow of illegal opium and heroin. This should be significantly cheaper than current drug enforcement lunacy. Legal payoffs would be relatively easy to implement in a disconnected country like Afghanistan. I seriously doubt that many Afghan farmers are proud of their 'street' heroin destined poppy fields. Who knows, it might work. If it does, try it on other poor farmers around the world.
 
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Gardener    What American Drug Epidemic?   6/17/2012 10:47:51 AM

1. Afghan opium products do not come to the USA. They go to regional countries - especially Iran - and to Russia. US illegal opiates are grown in Mexico and South America.

2. There are 19 countries licensed to grow poppy for legal drugs. These licensed farmers are not producing even a tiny portion of their capacity because there is not enough demand.

3. The world price of legal products is a few dollars a kg, about 5% of the price the Afghan farmers gets. Afghan farmers will not accept the world market price and the bad guys will always outbid.

4. The talked-about shortage of opiod drugs is manufactured from two non-related streams of discussion and is not, in fact, supported by the drug administration bodies of world governments, the legal bodies who would actually be managing national drug supplies.

5. There are loads of other things that Afghan farmers can grow that are more profitable than poppy but there is no access to the marketplace because the roads are not safe and farmers have no transport. The bad guys come right to the farm to pick up the harvest. Afghan opium is a product of the conflict and would not be profitable otherwise.

Read David Mansfield, Pierre-Arnaud Chouvy and World Bank publications in addition to those of UNODC for more information.

 
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Robert Walther       6/17/2012 11:30:21 AM
Thanks. I knew my opinion would be missing a lot, but the illegal drug problem can not be solved by current 'prohibition' attempts. The massive, illegal profit motivation has to be and can be taken out of the equation.
 
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WarNerd       6/17/2012 5:55:56 PM
Thanks. I knew my opinion would be missing a lot, but the illegal drug problem can not be solved by current 'prohibition' attempts. The massive, illegal profit motivation has to be and can be taken out of the equation.
Make drugs legal with free supply on demand from the Federal government.  But make it clear that usage is strictly the responsibility of the individual, and that they must register as an addict, with restrictions on holding some jobs for reasons of public safety.  The government should also provide free rehab for anyone who will stay in the program, and a very cheap funeral for drug overdoses of those who can not.  Funerals due to drug overdoses by juveniles, who will not have access to free drugs, will be required attendance by the entire school, with make-up days as needed, and the eulogy emphasizing what an idiot he/she was.
 
I figure we can get rid of 20% of the problem per year.
 
 
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