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Subject: Depletion of Cold War stockpiles
Vympel    7/13/2002 10:46:59 PM
A few comments on the latest strategypage article. - T-80 disappearing in favor of the T-62: Actually this has been the case in Chechnya since the operation began in 1999. There have always been few T-80s in theater; their advanced FCS, gas turbine mobility and heavy armor were simply not needed. The Russian Army doesn''t use the T-62 anymore, but the MVD (Interior Ministry) does. The T-62 is seen as adequate for the fire support roles for which it is used- it rarely engages in direct combat and so none with even light ERA (the small boxes, not the large wedges) have been photographed. - In Russian Army assaults, however, the most common tank is the T-72B equipped with light ERA. Again, not nearly as advanced as the T-80 in terms of armor protection, FCS, mobility. - Reliance on Grad MRL: this has been the preeminent MRL in theater for the Russian forces the entire time, even back to 1994; simply because the greater range and power of the Uragan and Smerch is simply not needed. The Uragan was widely used in Chechnya, but not the Smerch; its power and range is simply not required. If it was used, it was only for combat testing.
 
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Adam Geibel    RE:Depletion of Cold War stockpiles   7/14/2002 5:22:21 PM
"Russian Army doesn''t use the T-62 anymore, but the MVD (Interior Ministry) does." ...except for the Siberian Military District Guards 160th Tank Regiment. "Don't Feel Sorry for Us: A Tank Regiment's Chechen Chronicle", Konstantin Rashchepkin, Krasnaya Zvezda, 17 Apr 00 ] and [ "No Change on the Chechen Front. Nor Will There Be Any Because the Russian Army Will Have to Fight Using 1938-Vintage Howitzers", Mikhail Khodarenok, Nezavisimaya Gazeta, 05 Jul 02]
 
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Vympel    RE:Depletion of Cold War stockpiles   7/14/2002 11:15:20 PM
Cool the writers post on the boards! :) Adam you're absolutely right in the artillery situation, which is why I didn't comment; but the fact remains that the T-72B is far and away the most common tank in Chechnya in Russian Army use. The Siberian Military District is a most curious exception- in general the units Siberian MD recieves the most modern equipment (e.g. they actually have BMP-3s and T-90s in their TOE)- but it is only one regiment. I have even seen pictures of D-44 85mm field guns (developed right after WW2) being used in Chechnya for fire support (re: see Venik's Chechen War photos at aeronautics.ru) along with MT-12 100mm AT guns, D-20 152mm howitzers (1955 vintage).
 
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