Is the Topol M SS 27 the best intercontinental ballistic missile??

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french stratege RE:It just doesn't matter 12/22/2004 4:06:08 PM

antimissile systems are against countries with moderate numbers.Also to protect efficiency of military against an attack agaisnt some major assets like command posts. If you remove 270 warheads on a 300 warheads attack agaisnt 150 critical hardened military targets you save 80% of these assets from first strike. SS27 and as French M51 is to say USA doesn't dare to establish a too efficient antimssile defense. Maintening credibility.

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gixxxerking RE:It just doesn't matter 1/17/2005 4:09:32 AM

Nuke warheads arent an all powerful weapon. Yes they are terrible but it takes quite a few to destroy a large city. Suppose a rogue launches 1 missile with 10 MIRVs. 3 get through your defense and fall on very large cities. Consider that 9/11 cost the US well over a trillion dollars. Imagine the cost of a 500kt nuke airburst in that same location. Multiply by 3. Now multiply by 10. Now multiply all results by 10. Because thats the conservative estimate for a nuclear weapon detonating in a major city. Not to mention the long term cost associated with the fall out. The strain it would put on health care. So each one that is stopped, pays for the system many times over. Also each warhead stopped is tens to hundreds of thousands of saved lives. So it matters.

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eon_1000 ICBM facts 3/1/2005 8:43:26 PM

First ? during the Cold War USA and the USSR both built an overwhelming amount of ballistic missiles (as we all know) they also built* anti ballistic missile ? ?antimissile defense umbrella? but both countries knew that there is nothing stopping a ballistic missile ever ? that?s why the ?war? was so heated ? first strike wins. The development of antimissile systems was strictly a public relations issue ? the governments must assure their people that they are doing everything in their power to prevent a missile attack apart from a preemptive strike. (modern ground antimissile systems can only stop a cruise missile at the most and with only a 20% efficiency at that ? because ICBM?s operate slightly differently)To hit a missile that is dropping at 3x the speed of sound is virtually impossible. Second ? I herd someone mention a something-kiloton nuclear warhead ? the bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 13KT modern nuclear warheads are - 20MT for the SS-18 (Satan), Topol M is 550KT. Third ? Topol M SS 27 is the best ICBM ? mainly because it the most modern (1997)? the technology is not revolutionary (not including the new Mod 3 designed of 2004)but it is the combination of the technology that makes it superior. Fourth ? the way the RS-12M1M2(M3 in 2005) is first it is launched into the outer orbit where it cruises undetected (no space radar) for a maximum of 10500 km ? around the world. Then it starts to descend were it can change course at any time (the only missile to be able to do so. (Mod 3)) Then the re-entry vehicle ejects and flies to its target ? with propulsion (Mod 3) to increase the speed to 5 times the speed of sound. (6125.22 km/h) The outer shell of the re-entry vehicle is made of thick depleted uranium armor to with stand high heat (suck as lasers ? a defense for a science fiction strategy)

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Galderio RE:ICBM facts -eon_1000 3/3/2005 9:42:16 AM

"Then the re-entry vehicle ejects and flies to its target ? with propulsion (Mod 3) to increase the speed to 5 times the speed of sound. (6125.22 km/h)" Is it better than simply descend at mach 15 like other ICBMs?

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eon_1000 RE:ICBM facts -eon_1000 3/4/2005 7:27:18 PM

kind og stupid of me hu- when i was trying to make such a point and make such a mistake it is actually ~60m/s or mach 17 and its (Topol M) range is 11000km, has/could have 1-6 reentry vehicles with 550kiloton warheads (according to the START II treaty ICBM's are allowed to have only a singles warhead)

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zcsh 10/23/2006 11:16:03 PM

The SS18 mod 4 has the most kiloton payload 8000KT and the close comparable to US minute man II 4000KT. The SS-27 does not orbit the earth as this would be a violation of Start II or some other treaty I think. The SS-18 MOD 3 ( R-36O ) is a fractional orbital bombardment system were the entry vehicle enters a lower earth orbit and deorbits near its target and attacks. Using fobs the R-36O has unlimited range and can kind of attack from any direction. It is called FOBS because I think they do not ever let it make a full orbit around the earth because of some other treaty. The R-36O was opeartional some time during vietnam and remained active until 1983. I believe all other ICBM use a ballastic tragectory. Meaning they go up and down in a predicatable way. kinda of like the old computer game scorched earth or worms. The ss-27 asides from being the fastest man made moving object inside the earths atmosphere also has a maneuverable warhead. Since SS-27 designed post smart-2 is a single warhead nuke.

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The soviets as always are the leaders in ICBM technology.

Bush and Putin changed all the nuke treaties up so I think now MIRV are no longer banned...

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gf0012-aust 10/26/2006 4:24:03 AM

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nominoe 11/10/2006 4:39:17 AM

Actually several MT warheads are not that efficient. For example, 10 x 200 kt warheads detonated in a large area will do much, much more damages than 1 x 2 Mt warhead. Currently french warheads are 150 kt, about 10 times hiroshima which is considered sufficient as a detterent.

Anyway nuclear weapons are so powerful that even one or two "A" hiroshima bomb can bring absolute terror.

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