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Subject: Gas the caves?
00_Chem_AJB    7/24/2007 11:46:33 PM
How effective would gas, say mustard gas or lewisite, delivered by bombardment or dispersed from canisters be against an heavily entrenched enemy, who was using fortifications and caves (Not unlike the Japanese at Iwo Jima)
 
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Nichevo       7/27/2007 8:19:55 PM

To deal with cave systems all you need do is patrol the top and block off any ventilation shafts, while setting a fire at the entrance... people have to breath.
 


With my scheme you just have to infect one of those mule teams.  That actually makes it easier - anthrax.  I bet people get blasted with dust all the time in those mountains.  Dump a few kilos of anthrax spores on them from the cliff above while they're schlepping in OBL's caviar and nail clippers.  First thing they do is brush off the dust; it gets on the bunker crew carrying in the stuff; it is already on the stuff; it gets in the air ducts; and in a bunker for a dozen people, how likely is it OBL never meets 'em?  Just from tracking it around everybody would get nailed. 

Hey, try it and see if it works ;>
 
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swhitebull       7/27/2007 9:18:34 PM

To deal with cave systems all you need do is patrol the top and block off any ventilation shafts, while setting a fire at the entrance... people have to breath.
 

I'm trying to find the article that i read several years ago, but millions of dollars (dinars) were poured into these cave complexes, including self-contained breathing refuges. Keep in mind, bin laden comes from an engineering family big time, had the resources and the knowledge to design in anticipation of what the soviets were going and were doing, up to and including gas.
Im not defending OBL, but with the right resources and the time, it becomes a virtual Maginot Line fortress. If youve ever seen a schematic of a typical peice of the fortress, they included protection against the use of gas. I cant see OBL omitting those kind of defenses, given his resources.
 
 
btw - here's the link that didnt work. It's one of the Osprey books:
 
Afghanistan Cave Complexes 1979-2004: "Mountain Strongholds of the Mujahideen, Taliban & Al Qaeda" (Paperback)
by Mir Bahmanyar (Author), Ian Palmer (Author) "One of the major problems the Soviet Union faced during its invasion into Afghanistan was the difficulty in expelling Mujahideen from the cave and tunnel..." (more)
 
 

 
 
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00_Chem_AJB       7/27/2007 10:24:37 PM
Tall Boy or Grand Slam any one? What about hitting their water supply? Poisoning your enemies water has been one of the oldest forms of chemical warfare.
 
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