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Subject: Take the hostage out of the picture - virtual government
vfrickey    12/4/2003 1:00:48 PM
In the movie "Speed," the SWAT cops played by Keanu Reeves and Jeff Bridges are trying to rescue a booby-trapped elevator full of people, and while they're doing that, the older cop (Bridges) asks the younger one (Reeves) what he would do if confronted by a gunman holding a hostage at gunpoint. Reeves thinks for a minute and says "Shoot the hostage - take her out of the picture" A few minutes later, Bridges' character is held at gunpoint by the man who set the boobytrap. Reeves' character shoots Bridges' character in the leg, leaving the terrorist stunned for a response.

Mass terrorism involves a handful of people killing or threatening to kill hostages or innocent bystanders in order to undermine the people's confidence in their government.

Both Paul and Final Historian make the point that various WMD would disrupt government and society in general. As far as it goes, good point.

But as a nation, America already has the capacity to resist terrorist disruptions - our phone system.

America's phone system is increasingly becoming resistant to terrorist attack. With the widespread use of fiber optics to replace copper wire as "landline," even electromagnetic pulse from use of nuclear explosives in the ionosphere is a solvable problem.

So what? Well, there's no real reason why Congress has to meet physically, is there? Every cable viewer in the country has a seat inside the House and Senate chambers and committee rooms, as well as Parliament - C-Span 1 and 2 are thrown in with most cable packages. Wonderful antidote for insomnia.

But modern technology also makes it possible to dispense with the physical meetings shown on C-Span altogether. All of those speeches could be made, and votes cast electronically.

The problem for the ambitious terrorist who wants to destroy American government has just been made more complex - instead of hitting one city with a special weapon, the terrorist has to hit any number of locations - as many as 550 to get every senator, congressman and the President and his cabinet. If we're at all bright about it, many of those locations will be secret.

This is a much more satisfactory way of insuring governmental continuity than maintaining alternate centers of government at places like Mount Weather (locations which are probably better known to enemy agents and would-be terrorists than they are to the people whose taxes pay for them all).

Think about it - Americans already buy books and do all sorts of other shopping online because it's convenient. Why not govern ourselves thay way, too.

The whole corpus of American bureaucracy could be streamlined and much of it moved to its employees' homes. If the phone, Internet and cable is simply standardized to the broadband fiber-optic standard, there are very few bureaucratic functions which couldn't be handled that way, are there?

This is one government reform that would pay dividends in short order. Much of the General Services Admninistration's budget could be slashed and applied for more urgent matters as Federal office buildings around the nation are shut and sold off, or at least converted from rabbit warrens for Federal employees to Internet server facilities (in which case, their utility bills would fall dramatically as the air-conditioning system is channelled to just the server rooms and a few offices for the server maintenance crew).

This reform also imposes productivity improvements across the board on government agencies. Virtual government is efficient government, and the documentation of every government transaction in the virtual world is both automatic and more accessible than it would at present (where every document exists in several filed-away paper copies as a well as a few electronic ones).

Virtual government in a secure, terrorist-proof electronic setting would, along with Ecommerce, Email and other virtual activities would drastically reduce the number of opportunities for terrorists to get attention by striking at us with weapons of mass destruction.

It would also create a much deadlier foe for the terrorists as law enforcement, military and intelligence activities become more powerful and focused on the task of finding and arresting terrorists.
 
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temporary    RE:Take the hostage out of the picture - virtual government    5/6/2004 6:21:40 AM
This is not just a good idea, it is inevitable. The OLED panels are on their own learning curve, about 50% increase in area per year, and doubling the blue emitter brightness and lifetime every year, though the exact figures are proprietary. Wallscreens will take over when they are big enough to give you the psychological feeling that the other guy is just on the other side of that wall and not on the other side of the world. We have had real estate crashes caused by trains trashing the value of farms, and trams, trashing the value of downtown apartment buildings, and cars trashing the value of cities in general, but we've not yet had one caused by cheap telecommunications.
 
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perfectgeneral    RE:Take the hostage out of the picture - virtual government    9/19/2004 1:32:23 PM
The hostage would still be a ruling elite. Under representative virtual democracy there would still be 'reward' in terrorism. Although dispersed the government would still be, virtually, there to blame. Only a direct virtual democracy that didn't delegate to representatives would avoid the people/government duality that terrorism feeds off. If running the country was an equal partnership across the population then an attack on 'our' country would have no reward or hiding place.
 
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perfectgeneral    RE:No interest in preventative strategy?   12/26/2005 3:42:32 PM
I'm suprised that no-one has added a point about expert knowledge and general ignorance to discredit my last post. Are you a bunch of communists or something?
 
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skrip00    RE:Flamers, flamesuits, flaimbait.   1/30/2006 8:04:10 PM
Congress 2.0 Why dont we just have everything become online forums based? :p The thought gives me shivers looking at other forumboards.
 
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perfectgeneral    RE:Flamers, flamesuits, flaimbait.   6/22/2006 7:08:29 AM
I suspect that a more mainstream forum might attract more mainstream views. If an issue was truely important and the debate influential then it wouldn't be left to a minority of cranks (the polititians and electorate would join in).
 
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Nichevo    RE:Take the hostage out of the picture - cheap commo hurting anyone?   6/22/2006 11:26:36 AM
I think it's hurting the big cities. New York for instance has had other blows to suffer but with reduced need for physical presence the whole rationale of a city is diminished. All over downtown - on Wall Street itself - former office buildings are being made into condos. Ack!
 
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Nichevo    RE:No interest in preventative strategy?   6/22/2006 11:29:20 AM
Not sure what you mean - The Wisdom Of Crowds is latest mgmt/ops-think. One problem with your notion of security, as I believe Tom Clancy phrased it, is that you depend upon hiding as opposed to being tucked somewhere with thick walls and lots of guns around you. 550? nodes is 550 chances to catch one Congresscritter off guard watering his or her plants. Or as Mark Twain said, Put all your eggs in one basket and then WATCH THAT BASKET.
 
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kirby1       4/3/2007 12:47:29 PM
For the sake of secure landlines and secure comm, have the Congressmen use dedicated underground  lines from a secured office in thier state capitol. This will help the congress focus on its true mission, representing thier respective electorates. I've always been baffled as to how a man is supposed to rep out a certain area and group of people, while living and working more then a thousand miles away in DC.
 
Even under this arrangement, you still have a target proliferation of 50 different cities you need to hit. Its alot easier to replace a state gov, and set of state reps and senators then it is to replace the entire US government.
 
I like the idea of more citizen involvement. Perhaps stations could be set up, a sort of voting office/ government online cafe. Citizens would have thier IDs verified, and then be allowed to make votes on lower level and local level initiatives. Nonbinding surveys could be given to see how voters actually feel about issues, as compared to relying on biased and inaccurate poll numbers.
 
The First idea would take some pretty hefty work, but is already doable. The second would have take a few advances in technology, (Especially security) and would be more difficult logistics wise, ( Alot more secured lines, alot of security concerns, but would be a really good way of doing business.
 
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kcrfan01    Speed   4/4/2007 7:53:03 PM
Boy, you may have already got alot of e-mails on this. But I'll jut send one anyway
Jeff Bridges was not in Speed it was Jeff Daniels.
 
Be careful, us Keanu Reeves fans know our stuff.
kcrfan01
 
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