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Subject: DPRK launches its rocket.
Herald12345    4/4/2009 11:39:44 PM
No further firm data. Herald
 
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DarthAmerica    Herald reply   4/5/2009 10:12:05 PM
Hey, just got off duty. I'll be lurking until I get time to respond to your post. While I disagree with the spirit of what you are saying, I do find your view interesting. More later....


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WarNerd       4/5/2009 11:58:34 PM

No intercept was possible after ascent phase--other than shooting at booster stages coming down.  This shot went to orbit with a stupid little satellite that even now is squeaking out pro-'lil Kim songs.
 
 
No intercept was possible during the ascent phase, the SM-3 is a terminal phase interceptor. 
 
The only ascent phase interception system currently in development is the ABL.
 
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Beazz       4/6/2009 9:19:45 AM


 

 

3. and some weird legislation that is worming through Congress as I write this;


 


 

plus dozens of other catastrophes and mistakes that he is busy setting up or committing too numerous for me to track.





Hmm. seems to tie right in with this little article?

FBI InfraGard warns of a cresc...

by DefendUSx... April 05, 2009 11:14
Tasked by the FBI to provide "informational analysis" on conditions which could be construed as potentially harmful to civil order and national security, InfraGard, of the FBI's National Infrastructure Protection Center (NIPC), issued an unclassified Protective Intelligence Communication report in March 2009 regarding the "crescendo" of public concern about Obama's presidential eligibility.

Authored by Dr. Lyle J. Rapacki, Protective Intelligence Specialist and Agent, the report summarizes the substance of legal challenges to Obama on the question of his constitutional eligibility and concludes that if it "should be discovered Mr. Obama is ineligible, a constitutional crisis would ensue attempting to determine which of his executive branch orders should be valid." It goes on to warn that "if...Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation. The economic crisis coupled with this type of a constitutional crisis could prove to be a flashpoint that would test conventional law enforcement and elements of homeland security."

The stream of law suits, the most recent of which have been tendered by high ranking military officers and state legislators, to compel Obama to prove his eligibility have been unremitting and increasingly vocal. A request for "quo warranto" action, an apparent last-ditch legal remedy, was recently delivered to both the US Attorney for the District of Columbia and to the Attorney General.

Dovetailing with this unsettling assessment, and pretty much out of public view, are the following national security developments which, in their totality, could well signal acute domestic instability in the period ahead.

Upon the recommendation of the Army's Strategic Studies Institute, The Army Times reported that a somewhat euphemistically dubbed "Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF)," currently the role of the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team, but which, reportedly, might eventually comprise upwards of 80,000 troops, is being trained and readied to deal with what could be widespread civil disorder resulting from an "unforeseen economic collapse" or "loss of a functional political and legal order."

Symptomatic of festering civil unrest are the many "tea parties" springing up around the country, growing fears of economic disintegration and of both crippling terrorist attacks and even of perceived federal overreaching. Add to this the very real threat of a rogue nuclear EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) attack on the homeland which could instantaneously reduce the country to a paralytic pre-industrial condition, plus the unrest on our southern border, and there appears to be ample and justifiable cause for concern and appropriate contingency planning at every level of government.

 
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Softwar       4/6/2009 9:50:37 AM
 
Latest reports are the third stage failed and the remains spashed down 2200 miles down range.
 
The DPRK is reporting the satellite is in orbit - pumping out propaganda music.  US officials who monitored the flight state no satellite made it to orbit.
 
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Softwar    Bolton - "Obama Has No Plan..."   4/6/2009 10:45:01 AM

http://online.wsj.com/article/...

Prior to North Korea's launch yesterday of a Taepodong-2 ballistic missile, President Barack Obama declared that such an action would be "provocative." This public statement was an attempt to reinforce the administration's private efforts to urge the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea (DPRK) not to fire the missile.

That effort failed, as have countless other attempts to deal softly with Pyongyang. Incredibly, U.S. Special Envoy for North Korea Stephen Bosworth revealed -- just a few days before the launch -- that he was ready to visit Pyongyang and resume the six-party talks once the "dust from the missiles settles." It is no wonder the North fired away.

Once the missile shot was complete, the administration's answer was hand-wringing, more rhetoric and, oh yes, the obligatory trip to the U.N. Security Council so that it could scold the defiant DPRK. Beyond whatever happens in the Security Council, Mr. Obama seems to have no plan whatever.

So far, therefore, the missile launch is an unambiguous win for North Korea. (Although not orbiting a satellite, all three rocket stages apparently fired, achieving Pyongyang's longest missile flight yet.) But the negative repercussions will extend far beyond Northeast Asia.

Iran has carefully scrutinized the Obama administration's every action, and Tehran's only conclusion can be: It is past time to torque up the pressure on this new crowd in Washington. Not only is Iran's back now covered by its friends Russia, China and others on the U.N. Security Council, but it sees an American president so ready to bend his knee for public favor in Europe that the mullahs' wish list for U.S. concessions will grow by the minute.

Russia and China must also be relishing this outcome. They will have faced down Mr. Obama in his first real crisis, having provided Security Council cover for a criminal regime, and emerged unscathed. They will conclude that achieving their large agendas with the new administration can't be too hard. That conclusion may be unfair to the new American president; but it will surely color how Moscow and Beijing structure their policies and their diplomacy until proven otherwise. That alone is bad news for Washington and its allies.

 

 
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warpig       4/6/2009 10:51:25 AM


 

Latest reports are the third stage failed and the remains spashed down 2200 miles down range.

 

The DPRK is reporting the satellite is in orbit - pumping out propaganda music.  US officials who monitored the flight state no satellite made it to orbit.



 
Well, Herald, Softwar, thanks for the straight scoop.  Looks like I should have known better than to believe the initial reports from Liars, Inc. that all was well.  The NorKs did the exact same thing in 1998, when they lied about that satellite attempt (on a TaepoDong-1) making it into orbit, too.

 
 
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FJV       4/6/2009 1:37:34 PM
Why not fish up the satellite from the sea, film it and transmit it on North Korean TV during the mandatory propaganda viewing hour. Would make them look like the bunch of fools they really are.
 
"http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/uswpns/air/special/ec130.html"

 
 
 
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Herald12345    It wpuld cost too much.   4/6/2009 3:04:13 PM

Why not fish up the satellite from the sea, film it and transmit it on North Korean TV during the mandatory propaganda viewing hour. Would make them look like the bunch of fools they really are.


 

"http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/uswpns/air/special/ec130.html"





 

 
Answer: why bother?
 
Instead, black propaganda the DPRKS. Spread the possibly true rumor that the Russians sabotaged the launch to ensure that the Iranians would turn to them for rockets instead of using the bumbling DPRKs, and inept Chicoms as a tech source. 
 
You don't have to be stupid in the great game. Use your brains and a little PACRIM cunning, here. 
 
Herald
 
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