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Subject: Manned vs. Unmanned Vehicles
Dan Masterson    3/26/2001 7:23:49 PM
All the armed services have extensive ongoing research and development programs in unmanned vehicles. And the idea is not a new one. The German V-1 was basically an unmanned bomber as is the Tomahawk Cruise Missile, disposable bombers that is.

What are the pros and cons of unmanned vehicles? Will the next big tank battle be fought by remote control? Will the next war be won by the side that developed the teens with the best reflexes? Let us hear from you.
 
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IronSeeker    RE:Manned vs. Unmanned Vehicles -robots   4/30/2003 4:04:20 PM
robots said: >>You have still have not address the issue that by completely relying on a robot to fight wars thousands of miles from home, you leave the human controllers vulunerable to many guerrilla/terrorist style attacks on the human controller. Since the controller is no longer trained to fight in the conventional sense, they're more vulunerable. "Why attack the robot when you can take out the human controller? Why just destroy the robot, they'll just produce new ones?" Our enemies could be asking themselves. Attack the source, "the center of gravity".<< umm... so which is it?? is the controller "thousands of miles away" or uh, within attacking range? and are we gonna attack him by hand, fighting no doubt through trained soldiers, or why dont we just send robots??? get real robot. if we can protect the president and vice-president, we can protect remote robot controllers. and your quotes from centuries past... do not impress me. wait another 20 years and tell me about robots in warfare... OH wait... um... didn't we fire hellfires from UAVS in afganistan AND iraq??? why didn't the Afgani's or Iraqis just attack the controllers with a pen knife? woulda been a lot easier, since they couldn't shoot down the craft themselves to any reasonable degree. Iron Seeker
 
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Prometheus Bound    RE:Manned vs. Unmanned Vehicles -robots   12/26/2003 9:47:39 PM
You will always need boot prints on the battlefield; the question is in what capacity? Many of the advantages to robotics have been mentioned, but efficiency is probably the biggest. It?s very hard and expensive to build weapons with people inside them. Tanks without people have much more room for fuel, armor and ammo. The same with planes, subs, and anything else that uses fuel, armor or ammo. Robotics allows for more of the same weapon platform, at a lower cost, and most importantly ? with lower casualties. The major disadvantage is that their use is limited unless they have sufficient AI, and the risk of giving them that is too prohibitive. The Sci-Fi aspects of this may be laughed off by some, but I guarantee that it is not being ignored by the Pentagon. I wish I could remember what general said this, but here?s the paraphrase of another concern of the Army?s with these new weapons: Fighting without soldiers removes the moral compass. How hard is it to go to war when your only loss can be quantified in terms of the manufacturing process?
 
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