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Subject: Russian T90 vs. US M1A2 Abrams
achtpanz    6/14/2004 3:59:14 AM
Russian T90 vs American M1A2 Abrams - Which is better? If these tanks fought in battle, which would suffer more casualties, which one is superior? What are their advantages? Any information would be helpful.
 
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ColdStart    yeah right   3/2/2011 11:14:38 PM
and message to Santa Claw who talks about two same T72s.
 
You know..if you give the best hardware to idiots they will still fail. Ever knew about such fact? Georgians could not operate those tanks, even tho they were ok (but not great) modifications.(stil not as close to T90).
 
I already pointed out before, that Georgians HAVE LEFT more than 65 tanks on a battlefield! right after they knew that Russian forces are rushing in. Now what? does it mean T72 is bad?
 
your silly and primitive thinking just overflows.
 
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SantaClaws       3/2/2011 11:20:36 PM

So the picture of Russian T-72 in perfect working order PROOFS that destroyed t-72 on another picture, you posted before, is not Georgian but Russian?

 

What did you do in the military, cleaned toilets?


Actually it was to point out that the tank is crap and can't even stand up to it's older weapons like RPG7s. You couldn't tell the difference, or were dumb enough to think you could even though the tanks are exactly the same, which speaks a lot about your credibility and knowledge. Furthermore, the tanks are crap and have munition ignites when penetrated almost every single time, and they are penetrated often. Like I said, it's not my fault you are too stupid to see that.
 
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Buzz       3/2/2011 11:21:05 PM

LOL this idiot even could not get in/out of tank fast. And maybe that was another reason why you many times got beaten by the officers there. Such people like you were failures in Soviet army, during 30s you'd be killed pretty much im sure!

 

Tank is not supposed to be limousine for you, fatass moron, its a war machine, you understand that? WAR MACHINE, for WAR, not for convenience and fun.



I do believe  your beloved leader did va very good job of getting upwards of 40,000,000 soviet citizens killed in the war. The dumbass executed every officer that had even stepped foot on German soild at the first of the war thus insuring massive russian losses. Are you even aware that Stalin would send men armed with submachineguns into divisional HQ's whe a major battle was about to start. If the division lost ground or did not meet objectives the General and his staff was execurted on the spot. So yeah I probably would have been shot because I wouldnt be stupid enough to follow a insane man which the russian seem to like to do.
 
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SantaClaws       3/2/2011 11:22:50 PM

and message to Santa Claw who talks about two same T72s.

 

You know..if you give the best hardware to idiots they will still fail. Ever knew about such fact? Georgians could not operate those tanks, even tho they were ok (but not great) modifications.(stil not as close to T90).

 

I already pointed out before, that Georgians HAVE LEFT more than 65 tanks on a battlefield! right after they knew that Russian forces are rushing in. Now what? does it mean T72 is bad?


 

your silly and primitive thinking just overflows.


I love how I bring facts to the table you just change the subject. Please tell me again how the T90 is not a modernization of the T72? Oh right, you didn't know that until I quoted it, jackass.
 
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Buzz       3/2/2011 11:24:44 PM

aha, congress did not let you fight otherwise you'd win. typical excuse of US gov. for its people who were disappointed in its military.

 

the reason of US wuitting that war was S-75 soviet missile defence systems which lead to loss of 2000 more aircrafts. shut up.

 

oh you already started considering yourself american? :) lol "we didnt loose war" hahaha.... very cheap.




Once again you have proven to be clueless about history. If you werent a commi I'd swear you were a US Democrat.
 
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ColdStart    right   3/2/2011 11:25:16 PM
Buzz, yes thats the way it works out during the emergency! thats the only way to win the war and filter out pussies like you. Thats the way real men used to fight in WWII! Such a fatass pussy like you will never understand that.
 
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SantaClaws       3/2/2011 11:26:50 PM

Buzz, yes thats the way it works out during the emergency! thats the only way to win the war and filter out pussies like you. Thats the way real men used to fight in WWII! Such a fatass pussy like you will never understand that.

Those are pretty strong words coming from a, ice cold killer, battle harden Modern Warfare II veteran as yourself!
 
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Dmitri514    To ColdStart   3/2/2011 11:27:58 PM

The myth about superiority of US tanks, soldiers, army and ?all American? is the cornerstone of American patriotism. Especially for not so bright Americans like Santa. It?s useless to argue with them. They were brainwashed from the childhood, from the Rambo movies to the TV shows. They seriously believe that Soviet Union would be defeated by Germany if they wouldn?t land in Normandy. And those who was in the US army are brainwashed the most (except senior officers who must know reality to do their job).

The same goes about Abrams. This US propaganda has several goals:

1. The US soldiers would fight better if convinced of their equipment superiority.

2. The US population would approve huge military expenses.

3. The politicians of other countries would hopefully believe it and buy overpriced for its quality and often inferior military equipment.

4. US army is voluntary ? need good propaganda to get enough recruits.

Of course, there are military experts in USA, who know the truth, but they would go to jail or loose their jobs if post on this forum. For example, I work for Intel and it?s strictly forbidden for us to comment about Intel products on the forums. And it?s a civilian company!

 
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Dmitri514    To ColdStart   3/2/2011 11:30:04 PM

The myth about superiority of US tanks, soldiers, army and ?all American? is the cornerstone of American patriotism. Especially for not so bright Americans like Santa. It?s useless to argue with them. They were brainwashed from the childhood, from the Rambo movies to the TV shows. They seriously believe that Soviet Union would be defeated by Germany if they wouldn?t land in Normandy. And those who was in the US army are brainwashed the most (except senior officers who must know reality to do their job).

The same goes about Abrams. This US propaganda has several goals:

1. The US soldiers would fight better if convinced of their equipment superiority.

2. The US population would approve huge military expenses.

3. The politicians of other countries would hopefully believe it and buy overpriced for its quality and often inferior military equipment.

4. US army is voluntary ? need good propaganda to get enough recruits.

Of course, there are military experts in USA, who know the truth, but they would go to jail or loose their jobs if post on this forum. For example, I work for Intel and it?s strictly forbidden for us to comment about Intel products on the forums. And it?s a civilian company!

 
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ColdStart    ok   3/2/2011 11:32:38 PM
yes i know, high rank experts know the truth, with the same success they gona loose job if they UNDERESTIMATE Russian or whateva other military.
 
But people like Santa can brag here, thats not gona hurt. 
 
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