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Subject: Fundamentally useless armoured vehicles
gf0012-aust    6/8/2004 9:40:41 AM
and now for something completely different.

I thought I'd start a thread on armoured vehicles that were niche specific and in real terms sitting ducks for an enemy.


Starting off with the Ontos. 4 Recoilless rifles mounted on an armoured letter box and fitted with tracks.

 
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Sam    RE:USMC vehicle Can't remember AlbanyRifle   6/12/2004 1:16:14 AM
Are you sure it was tracked? It sounds like a Mechanical Mule except for the track part. The Army nomenclature was M-274
 
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Sam    RE: Mule picture link   6/12/2004 1:18:37 AM
link I would also nominate the Gamma Goat.
 
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oregon_x_marine    RE: Mule picture link   6/12/2004 1:52:50 AM
Hell, I remember seeing those at Camp Schwab on Okinawa in 1981-82!!
 
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mike_golf    RE: Mule picture link   6/12/2004 2:35:55 AM
Sam wrote: "I would also nominate the Gamma Goat" That had to be the most useless small truck ever designed. Somebody got stinking rich off that piece of you know what.
 
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ChdNorm    RE: Mule picture link   6/12/2004 9:11:56 PM
I might be stretching this a little here as far as armored vehicles, but I'm gonna throw my vote towards the armored HMMWV.
 
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Allan_X    RE: Mule picture link   6/13/2004 10:25:00 AM
link This tank was a disgrace to the Army. Totally useless.
 
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Allan_X    RE: Mule picture link   6/13/2004 10:27:05 AM
link and this one , omg good men died needlessly because of stupid designers.
 
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Marcus    RE: Mule picture link   6/13/2004 2:52:13 PM
Well, it looks like the perfect design for a real golf war :-))
 
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eon    RE; Paintball War Thingie   6/22/2004 9:50:28 AM
The second one actually looks a bit better than some of the home-brewed "A/Cs" that showed up in Bosnia about ten years ago..
 
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AlbanyRifles    Not a Mule   6/23/2004 1:32:14 PM
No it wasn't a Mule. I have seen those and know the difference. I actually saw one of these vehicles at the rail yard in Yermo MCLD in Yermo, CA circa 1997. I also used to work with a retired USMC O-6 loggie who knew the vehicle I spoke about. He siad they had the inflatable road wheels to keep weight down for LCVP/LCM use. M561 Gamma Goat was not armored, but is sure was offensive!!! And the M520 GOER (aka No GOER) stunk also!
 
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OplotMira    Bren Carrier with a Boys 55 caliber AT Rifle   6/23/2004 7:14:13 PM
The Boys Carrier sure wasn't crap. The soviets got them from the British as lend-lease, and they loved them! Stalin spesifically asked for all univesal-carriers to be delivered form Britain to be Boys-carriers. The Boys was excellent against light the light Nazi armor at the time (1941) and a real killer as a sniper's weapon. Sincerely OplotMira
 
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towgunner1960    RE:Gamma Goat   6/23/2004 7:15:38 PM
It was useful for what it was designed for, carrying 81 and 107mm mortars, medics and the like. The drive train was complex and people who didn't know how to drive it off road tended to get themselves hurt or worse. However it could swim and with that flexible articulating body, could go over anything. It was a monster for offroad stuff.....
 
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Horsesoldier    M1A1 E-66   6/25/2004 3:59:55 PM
Not the M1A1 in general, but I had a Troop commander for a while who transformed his tank into the most useless armored vehicle in the American inventory any time he keyed up his radio . . .
 
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Siddar    RE:Fundamentally useless armoured vehicles   6/25/2004 5:54:56 PM
German MAUS tank gets my vote.
 
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WinsettZ    RE:Fundamentally useless armoured vehicles   6/25/2004 6:27:03 PM
I guess you can't top the Maus. I think it was a 128mm with co-ax 88? Or something like that.. -Post 9200
 
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