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Subject: Not so pansy just British
Vark    4/12/2002 5:30:54 PM
There is method in this naming. Valentine so called because plans for the tank were submitted to the War Office just before St Valentines day. Matilda after the fiery daughter of Henry I who became the 1st Queen of England, I guess as it was an infantry tank a strong maternal name was needed. Cromwell after the great cavalry general of the ECW, Brit. tankers still yearned for their ponies, hence Dragoons and Hussars cropping up in Tank formation names. Honey's were officially General Stuarts, but crews loved their reliability and easy maintenance so gave them an affectionate nickname. Unlike the Russians, who were so appalled at the Grant they nicknamed it the grave for seven brothers!! I always liked the name Archer and Crusader personally, though calling something the Achilles is asking for trouble.................................Swede
 
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9.2x18mm    RE:Not so pansy just British   12/16/2002 1:48:07 AM
I have heard a different story on the naming of the "Valentine" cruiser tank. According to this source (The book 'World War Two Tanks', by an author whose name eludes me), the inspiration for the name came auctually from the outfit that designed it: Vickers-Armstrong Ltd., Engineering, Newcastle upon Tyne. Hence, V-A-L-E-N-TYNE. The acceptance of the design on Valentine's day was merely coincidental, or perhaps, planned that way.
 
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highground    RE:Not so pansy just British   12/19/2002 9:45:09 PM
The book "World War Two Tanks", by George Forty, Osprey 1995, p 43. "Third of the early Infantry Tanks was a private venture designed by Leslie Little of Vickers Armstrongs. Contrary to the theory that the tank was accepted on St. Valentine's Day and hence its name, it is strongly believed (by the firm at least) that its name was derived from the company's address: Vickers Armstrongs Ltd, Engineers Newcastle upon Tyne."
 
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9.2x18mm    RE:Not so pansy just British   12/22/2002 11:40:33 PM
That's the one, thanks.
 
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