Medium tank versus MBT versus RPG et alia

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Nilefury RE:Medium tank versus MBT versus RPG et alia 9/9/2003 1:58:04 AM

Reserves and mech infantry as extra fire support alongside IFVs.

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Nasty German Idiot RE:Medium tank versus MBT versus RPG et alia 9/9/2003 2:27:40 PM

The Leopard1-A5 has the same 120 mm Smothbore gun as the M1A1, its Aiming systems are up to date, and they were in service up to August with Germany. The are kept in storage for Training with Reservists. I think they can still cope with most tanks, and if they have luck even with most up-to-date tanks nowadays in service, with a 80% chance to hit with the first shoot and a 95% chance with the second.

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Couac_Attack RE:Medium tank versus MBT versus RPG et alia 9/9/2003 3:43:08 PM

I thought that the leopard 1 used a 105 mm ( it has been changed? ). I think medium tanks actually, dont have any chance to beat the modern MBT ( to strong, to fadt... to powerfull!). But its right that if you equip old tanks ( not so ) like the leopard 1 with a 120mm, they can shoot MBT. The problems now is that modern MBT are not affected by anti-tanks weapon, so i think you would need a gun wich use kinetic projectiles ( like the 120 mmrifled/smooth ) to shoot some modern MBT with a good chance of killing, and the Anti-tanks rocket are underpassed with the modern tanks.

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Nasty German Idiot RE:Medium tank versus MBT versus RPG et alia 9/9/2003 5:57:49 PM

Yeah it was 105 up to version A3 i think, changed at the beginning of the 1990´s (1992 ???). btw. The Antitank weapons did a lot damage to the M1´s in Iraq, even knocked some out (though no crew was killed luckily ) - Modern Tank guns are more successful thats right. I think the next step with Antitank weapons will be overflyers that attack the often to weak upper turret armor.

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Kodiak RE:Medium tank versus MBT versus RPG et alia 9/9/2003 6:10:13 PM

the anti-tank weapons didn't really do "a lot" of damage in GW2, considering how many were actually fired (thousands, I'm sure), there were only a few disabling incidents, and those damages were repairable

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bsl RE:Medium tank versus MBT versus RPG et alia 9/9/2003 7:23:07 PM

You're not going to defeat the front armor of modern MBTs with any gun less than MBT-size. You're not going to defeat any armor with smaller guns, at long range, at all. If you happen to have a bunch of older hulls, and want to keep and use them...well... If you insist on keeping the old guns and turrets, then pretty much the only tactic which is going to have a chance is to either try to get shots at the rear of MBTs, exclusively, or try for the treads, looking for missions kills. This isn't a great idea, and if the turrets aren't stabilized, as modern MBT turrets are, and you don't have fire control computers, it's pretty much hopeless. But, that would be a way to look for targets smaller guns *could* hurt. A better idea might be to change weapons. There are several systems around, right now, in several countries, which can defeat any tank in the world with a top-down charge. These are not especially a large or heavy missiles, either. They're either man portable or one size up, which means small enough to mount on the lightest of vehicles. If you were to add such a missile to light tanks, either supplementing or replacing the main guns, you'd have a weapon fully capable of defeating MBTs. If you chose the right missile, you could even engage at long range, which is highly desirable when the tank can kill you out to several thousand meters, easily. In fact, this would not be greatly different from the way modern infantry fighting vehicles are built. Both the Bradleys and the Soviet era BMPs carried heavy antitank missiles, so, potentially, any one could kill a heavy tank. The missiles I'm refering to are a newer development, specifically intended to engage a tank at the points where it's armor is thinnest, rather than the sides.

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MikkoLn RE:Medium tank versus MBT versus RPG et alia 9/10/2003 2:03:54 AM

There are many places in the world where the heaviest of tanks can't go. In such locations older and slightly lighter models are perfectly suitable. And again, it's only up to what you're supposed to confront in the battlefield - most countries doesn't face the threat of the latest MBT's.

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