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Subject: Can the M-1 Abrams travel completely submerged?
mabie    9/27/2009 3:24:51 AM
I know the Leopard and many Russian tanks have the option to use a snorkel to cross rivers while completely submerged. I'm not so sure the Abrams has this capability. If this is the case, was this an oversight on the part of the American designers. One can't always assume bridges will be available/still standing when a river has to be crossed. And it takes time to set up a temporary bridge.
 
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ambush       9/29/2009 10:48:13 PM

It seems to me that snorkeling offers no real advantage of bridging or ferrying.   All the demonstration videos seem to have such operations taking place from prepared locations-ramps and matting laid down on the banks probably prepared bottoms.   I think that  the topographic, hydrology  and  environmental  conditions would be very restrictive in order for such an operation to be feasible.

  I would think unit of tracked armored amphibious vehicles capable of crossing and at least temporarily securing the far side until a bridge or ferry operation is established would be of more value. 

Perhaps not along the lines of the Marines AAAV-7 because it would not have to be able to handle open ocean sea states like the AAAV-7and we would want more firepower however I would not rule out the EFV, if adopted, to save expense of build a completely new vehicle.  We would want true amphibious capability not this nonsense of erecting a collapsible screen, I also would recommend tracks over any wheeled vehicles so it would not be as restricted as type of banks it could negotiate.
 
 If I recall correctly LVTs were used in the crossing of the Rhine during WWII but for some stupid reason were not used at Normandy.
 
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