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Subject: Tank- ghost with name T-95
sovdep    1/19/2008 8:31:58 PM
Below you find direct translation of article from Russian Newspaper.
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It was translated as is, with no comment. I found some parts of article very interesting and some very speculative.

Tank- ghost with name T-95
There is no new engine, no new gun or electronic-the is only promises.

The Chief of Armament of Russian Army general Makarov announce on December 22, that testing of new tank for Russian Army shall be completed in 2008.
The Russian Army suppose to get new tank in 2009. He told that this tank shall get new engine with transmission, new optic and electronic for gun. He also acknowledge that the factories of Russian Armament industry can't produce high quality parts for new tank.
The are a lot of speculations about new tank in Russia. Initially it suppose to be delivered to Army in 1994.Mr Batuev, the President of Union of Armament Industry of Sverdlovs, where main factory is located told in 2001 that production of new tank would begin right after order of 310 T-90 for India shall be completed. This announcement shocked Management of "Ural Wagon Factory"- the company that produce T-90 at that time. Vice President of this company A. Churikov told about this announcement: "I have no clue about any new tank that we suppose to produce, I don't even know what you are taking about.
At that time factory did not produce tanks for 10 years already. It was only one group of high quality workers who could assembled tanks and they were busy to work with few tanks that suppose to go to exhibitions.
T-95 became legends. There a lot of rumors how it suppose to look like.
Experts think that new tank for XXI Century suppose to be very compact, have high speed, hard to penetrate and have advance electronic. Weight suppose to be 50 tons, the crew suppose to be in highly protected capsule inside of body of tank and turret does not have a people. The turret suppose to have 135mm gun with autoloader, sensors and electronic jammers. Tank suppose to use composite armor with dynamic protection system Arena, that suppose to defeat automatically any incoming armor-penetrating rounds.
Tank suppose to use diesel with 1500-1800HP and it is possible, that it has X-shape.
This engine suppose to use new transmission that suppose to provide smooth ride.
However it is not clear if Russian Designers can develop engine like this.
There is one more problem:
The technology of production of Gun barrels was lost too.
The barrels that produced today can handle only 450 shots and if rockets are used, it can go as low as 50.
Russian manufacturers have same problem with electronic- T-90 that were sent to India used French termo displays and a lot of foreign components. Today we need to use even more foreign components, because production of electronic does not stay still.
Everybody know that the strongest part of Russian tanks is ration between price and reability. The foreign tanks are more expensive. The price for American Abrams, German Leopards-2AB, French Leclerk MK2, Italian Ariette-2, Israeli Merkava-4 and UK Challenger is 5 millions or more and can go up to 10 Millions with additional components.
At the low end of price range with price less than 5 millions we have Russian T-90 and base on it license copies produced in Iran, Poland, Chinese, Pakistan and Ukraine.
There are also South Korean clone of Abrams, tanks from Japan, Brazil and South Africa over there.
The experts think that a lot of armys begin the modernization of armor forces and expensive tank shall take markets share 55%. However cheap tanks suppose to take at list 45% of market and Russian hope that it will take at list half of this sum.
 
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earlm    To Sovdep   1/19/2008 10:37:34 PM
Please post more info.  This was informative on the problems in the industrial complex of Russia, an important question to answer to see how far Russia's modernization will go.
 
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WarNerd       1/20/2008 3:40:09 AM

There is one more problem:
The technology of production of Gun barrels was lost too.

 Can this be confirmed?  If so, then the Russian arms market may be in big trouble!
 
The question is did they lose the technology because the factory is no longer in Russian territory, because the equipment deteriorated to much to rebuild while unused, or because key personnel/talents were lost.

 
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Shirrush    Interesting!   1/20/2008 4:27:43 AM
A truly candid on Russia's defense industry woes, or just more maskirovka?
 
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Shirrush    Interesting!   1/20/2008 4:31:54 AM
I can't read Russian, but the same page apparently links to an article on artefacts on the Moon...
Hmmmm...

 
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Shirrush    Interesting!   1/20/2008 4:38:36 AM
No, sorry, my bad, just the good news about a Japanese lunar probe, with nice pictures of interesting topography.
 
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sovdep    Tank- ghost with name T-95   1/20/2008 2:11:49 PM
The link to the Russian newspaper with article:
www.ng.ru/economics/2007-12-24/1_tank.html

It was two reasons why I placed this article on web site:
1. To stop all this nonsense about superiority of Russian tanks in comparison with Western ones. Russian tanks have problems even with basic stuff.

2. To give few facts to understand what is a real situation in Russian armament industry after more than 15 years of crisis.

Do I trust information in article- Yes, I do.

We all know that each time when Russia sell weapons to any serious customer, like India, it forced to install Western or Israeli electronic.It's required more time to integrate 3d party electronic to the Russian hardware and it is more expensive. Russian do this because they have no choice- the golf between Russian electronics and Western one is to wide.
I'm also not surprise by information about problems with gun barrels.
You need to remember that Russia lost Ukraine that had a lot of armament factories. It also had one of the biggest Design team in Kharkov. Consider that the government of Ukraine want to be admitted in NATO, there is no way Russian have any cooperation with Ukraine factories today.
There is one more piece of information.
Russian Armament industry was never flexible that had both political and manufacturer reasons. The Russian were first one who were hit by road bombs. It was in Afghanistan in 1980x. Russian solgers found  a "solution":to ride on the top of armored vehicles. Did you see latest picture with Russian solgers in Chechnia? Today, 28 years later, Russian solgers are still riding on the top of armored vehicles. However in 5 years that US Army is fighting in Iraq we are on the third generations of Army vehicles -> Hammvi-> Armored hammvi-> Mine Resistant Vehicles. The US Army is also using a lot of electronic equipment to defeat bombs: Jammers, robots, UAV with heat sensors and so on. I never heard that anything like this was used by Russian Army in Chechnia or anywhere else.
 Thank you!
 
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