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Subject: Difference between IFV and APC ?
bravoss    10/14/2007 1:31:09 PM
Hello all. I'm not the most clued in on armor, especially light armor but I'm interested in it. I'd like to know what's the difference between IFV and APC. As far as I get it, IFV are more heavily armored than APCs, more prepared for combat, are tracked and can carry troops. On the other side APCs are lighter, and not really intended for combat, except for defending themselves and the troops while deploying them, they also use wheels instead of tracks. Am I right, and what other differences are there?
 
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bravoss       10/14/2007 2:06:36 PM
I know that M2 Bradley, Warrior or Puma are classified as IFVs, but what about LAV 25 ? Is LAV 25 more of an APC or IFV ? Thanks.
 
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flamingknives       10/14/2007 2:20:18 PM
Typically, an IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) carries decent weaponry - a turreted automatic cannon of 20mm or better and it will stick around once it has dropped off its dismounts to support them.

APCs are armoured taxis, with pintel or remote machine guns for self-defence. After it has dropped off its infantry it will retreat to cover. 

Armour levels or tracks/wheels is not a pre-requisite - the Stryker is a wheeled APC with moderate armour while the BMP1 is a tracked IFV with less armour. The Israeli Namer has tracks and more armour than any IFV on the planet, but it is classed as an APC due to the lack of offensive armament. LAV-25 and the Canadian LAV-III would class as an IFV, as both have turreted weaponry as well as dismounts.
 
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bravoss       10/14/2007 3:07:25 PM
Yeah, but for example look at the BTR-90. BTRs were always classed as APCs but now when they get the big gun they become the IFVs, while on the other side you have the BMP-1,2,3 which were always true IFVs. Also, you will often see LAV 25 classed as APC, while it's counterparts with very similar characteristics might be classed as IFVs.  The way I see it there are those classic APCs, lightly armored with machinegun such as M113, on the other side there are 'true' IFVs like BMP-3, Puma, Warrior or Bradley, and then there are those vehicles that are something between APC and IFV, while heaving light armor, and not too much protected they carry a big gun instead of machine gun, such as LAV 25, WZ 551 or BTR 90. Am I right on this?
 
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bravoss       10/14/2007 3:15:04 PM
Yeah, but for example look at the BTR-90. BTRs were always classed as APCs but now when they get the big gun they become the IFVs, while on the other side you have the BMP-1,2,3 which were always true IFVs. Also, you will often see LAV 25 classed as APC, while it's counterparts with very similar characteristics might be classed as IFVs.  The way I see it there are those classic APCs, lightly armored with machinegun such as M113, on the other side there are 'true' IFVs like BMP-3, Puma, Warrior or Bradley, and then there are those vehicles that are something between APC and IFV, while heaving light armor, and not too much protected they carry a big gun instead of machine gun, such as LAV 25, WZ 551 or BTR 90. Am I right on this?
 
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murabit821       10/14/2007 3:57:07 PM
BTR-90 have BMP-2 turret  it is wheeled IFV
 
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