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Subject: top 10 tanks in the world!!!
Hong-Xing    8/12/2003 9:07:05 AM
i think it would be this t-90 (rus) m1a2 (usa) t-98 (chi) m1a1 (usa) Challenger 2 (bri) t-95 black hawk (rus) al khalid (chi) merkeva (bra) arjun (ind) t-90||| (chi)
 
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Jigoku-Aisatsu    RE:M1A2 = Dreadnought of Tanks   12/27/2003 10:39:58 PM
Is the SEP more heavily armored? If so, by how much?
 
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kebecois    RE:M1A2 = Dreadnought of Tanks   12/28/2003 7:59:08 AM
M1SEP has a new commander sight independent from the turret. Other then that it's still M1A2 not a big improvement over prvious models. To survive on the battlefield in the 21 century one need a fully digitalized tank. The only country having computerized tanks is France.
 
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oldbutnotwise    RE:M1A2 = Dreadnought of Tanks   12/29/2003 1:14:17 AM
realy? how come the Challenger has the same comand and control systems as the leclerc if the leclerc is the only one? all the mbts in the west have a c and c system fitted, you can argue whoes is best but not that ours has it and yours doesnt. ps the a3 has 2nd generation chobbam armour as fitted to challenger 1's
 
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kebecois    RE:M1A2 = Dreadnought of Tanks   12/29/2003 3:06:00 AM
Im pointing out the obvious here. French tank is more sophislicated while English tank is more protect. They both are good, but their usefulness is limited today. The future belong to the tank destroyer. They are heavy armour car with 105mm and even 120mm, fully computerized. They can take on any tank today and they are more mobile.
 
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Couac_Attack    RE:M1A2 = Dreadnought of Tanks   12/29/2003 3:18:30 AM
" how come the Challenger has the same comand and control systems as the leclerc if the leclerc is the only one? " i thougt it was a canadian one ....??..
 
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oldbutnotwise    RE:M1A2 = Dreadnought of Tanks   12/29/2003 5:24:41 AM
no the targeting system is candian, the command and control is the same system as fitted to the leclerc
 
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bazos    RE:top 10 tanks in the world!!!   12/30/2003 9:35:55 AM
the best ones are: m1 abram , challenger, merkva they were to the battle not the others, chechens destroyed many russians t90 tanks with little means during the two war of tchechena
 
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PuckaMan    Testament to Challenger 2's Armour   12/30/2003 10:35:52 AM
Not really an opinion, but I found an article in a recent FHM mag. Sep. 2003 (Australia) anyway, the journo is talking with some Tommies from the Queen's Royal Lancers: "How tough is the tank?" "Tough as Hell. One of the lads in C Squadron took 7 RPG rounds and they just bounced off the turret. We took a couple and hit a landmine. Sounded like the biggest sledgehammer in the world, but all it did was crack the track." There you go. Pretty good evidence that, for my money, the Challenger 2 has the best armour of any tank. Still prefer the Leo2A6 though, Chally2 is a bit underpowered for my liking. P.S: "Do you have anything like a CD player or air-conditioning for creature comforts?" "F_k yeah, we were playing the Foo Fighters and Flight of the Valkyries to get us in the mood for battle!" Which brings up a good point: Best gun, best armour, fastest, etc. is all well and good; is there space for a CD player and Kylie Minogue, Britney Spears or (My favourite) Kiera Knightley Pin-ups? We're forgetting the important things here!@
 
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supertankerm1a1    RE:Testament to Challenger 2's Armour   12/30/2003 10:01:53 PM
Sorry to bust your bubble but RPG's are as whimpy as it comes in the catagory of anti armor weaponry. Heck, an RPG 7 couldnt even kill an A48A5 from most angles There are pictures of 48's that took over a dozen hits from RPG7's after it had been immobilized by a land mine with no crew casualties. They barely penetrate APC's armor.
 
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Heorot    RE:Testament to Challenger 2's Armour supertankerm1a1   12/31/2003 10:19:47 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble supertankerm1a1, but it is believed that it was a dual warhead RPG that penetrated the side of an M1 recently (look at this sites picture gallery). Not all RPG's are equal.
 
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