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Subject: The Lost Mistrals
SYSOP    4/14/2015 5:36:42 AM
 
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keffler25       4/14/2015 8:17:22 AM
There is a customer, if Uncle is smart enough. 
 
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ATC619       4/14/2015 9:09:03 AM
Not sure if they would have enough space for both the Ground Combat and Air Combat Elements.  Having been on three amphibs, I can tell ya that even a Wasp and Tarawa class gets pretty packed when you have 30+ birds on them.  Tho, I would not rule out the possibility of using one as a JSOC Mother Ship or a Helicopter Mine Countermeasure Support Ship....ala USS Inchon. 
 
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keffler25       4/14/2015 9:36:35 AM
I had in mind floating hospitals, LHDs, or command ships.  
 
"--> JSOC Mother Ship or a Helicopter Mine Countermeasure Support Ship....ala USS Inchon."
 
Frankly I did not think of that idea, but it works and is probably better than mine.   
 
 
 
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Tamerlane    Right on Kef   4/14/2015 11:07:04 AM
1.  We put some lean on the Frogs (foreign policy or something) if we buy the Mistrals.
 
2.  Our San Antonio Class seems to be Sierraing the bed pretty badly.
 
3.  Putin would be really pissed.
 
4. Ref. 4 above:  If we don't pull our head out of our ass RE: the Arctic, we will be in big trouble. 
 
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HR    There would be buyers...   4/14/2015 1:25:18 PM
I am sure there will be buyers but not the USA. The Navy prefers ships built under programs that can all be maintained and up-dated to the same standard. But there are others that would love to have them... smaller Navies with a need for one or two ships. Several in South America.
 
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trenchsol       4/14/2015 4:21:38 PM
Allegedly, there was a period when Russia was stalling the transfer, because there was a debate does Russia need those ships or not.
 
 
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keffler25       4/14/2015 4:53:52 PM
 
Sort of like what is happening to the Americans right now, too. But that would be in regards to ISIL. 

Allegedly, there was a period when Russia was stalling the transfer, because there was a debate does Russia need those ships or not.

 

 
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Yimmy       4/14/2015 6:01:58 PM
I read a rumour somehwere that the EU was going to buy them.  But, seeing as the EU doesn't have a navy, I wasn't quite sure what that meant.
 
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Sty0pa       4/17/2015 7:32:33 AM
The suggestion was that as the EU seems to be working toward joint military operations (mainly, from what I can see, as a way of cutting their individual budgets even further), the trial balloon was that the EU or NATO as organizations themselves bought it.
 
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keffler25       4/17/2015 10:56:29 AM
This is a guess, but that sounds like France trying to get other EU members to buy a couple of LHDs for their navy without France having to paydown the layout. There's no-one else besides Italy or Britain in the EU who knows how to use such an LHD properly or who NEEDS one.
 
I still think that those hulls would make more sense in US hands. Our navy is short of carrier hulls and those ships can serve as such in a pinch. They are big enough to support a rump MEU, just barely and as ATC 619 pointed out, an LHD is just so blasted useful in a wide variety of configurations and missions.
 
The French planned for 4 or 5. If they have to eat those hulls, they may wind up with 6 or 7, and THAT is not something Uncle should want at all for policy reasons I don't want to go into.    
 
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