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Subject: Typhoon And The Annoying Rivets
SYSOP    10/29/2014 5:47:56 AM
 
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keffler25       10/29/2014 9:49:26 AM
Having the tail fall off is no big deal?
 
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davebarnes       10/29/2014 11:52:50 AM
"less than 500"
no
fewer than...
 
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Batou    Tail! What tail?   10/30/2014 4:06:25 AM
Meh - Mirages I through to V work well without a tail
 
Why worry ......
 
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Nate Dog    Keffler   10/30/2014 11:31:04 PM
Having the tail fall off is no big deal? 
 
 
Its been happening to the Russians for years and you don't hear their dead pilots complaining…. 
 
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keffler25       10/31/2014 8:22:55 PM
My favorite whipping boy, Lockmart, unloaded a turkey called the F-104 on the Germans. Lots of crashes and complaints You would think the Luftwaffe would have learned? 


 
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phalanx30       11/1/2014 9:57:22 PM

My favorite whipping boy, Lockmart, unloaded a turkey called the F-104 on the Germans. Lots of crashes and complaints You would think the Luftwaffe would have learned? 

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What other vehicles/aircraft have they screwed up? Also, which company do you like it when comes to military aircraft?
 
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keffler25       11/2/2014 3:47:59 AM
F-35 (over complex and underpowered)
F-22 (especially this flying turkey with its botched airframe)
At sea their version of the Literal Combat Ship.(Wrong concept from customer, mated to wrong concept of concept.)
 
In America I like Northrop and Raytheon 
 
I also like McDonnell Douglass division subsumed into Boeing as well as General Atomics and Space-X.
 
In Europe Alennia Aerimachi subsumed into FinMeccanica.
 
Best airplane makers out there.
 
For the Russians, Sukhoi hands down.
 
Sweden, there is SAAB.
 
Japan, Mitsubishi.
 
France, there is Dassault, which has its faults but still produces workmanlike aircraft.  
 
Lockmart on the other hand, aside from the great Kelly Johnson and some good special projects he did, is a disaster as an corporation. with more flying turkeys than their great corporate PR campaign suggests. (See above)
My favorite whipping boy, Lockmart, unloaded a turkey called the F-104 on the Germans. Lots of crashes and complaints You would think the Luftwaffe would have learned? 





What other vehicles/aircraft have they screwed up? Also, which company do you like it when comes to military aircraft?
 
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Nate Dog    keffler vs lockmart   11/2/2014 8:42:45 AM
Well,
They may build turkeys but as a business model their marketing company is 2nd to none. 
Say what you want, they certainly manage to convince lots of people to buy their stuff. 
 
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Nate Dog    Speaking of tails falling off   11/3/2014 12:09:26 AM
 
Vid of F35B doing horizontal takeoff
 
Tailstrike much?
 
 
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HR    Nate   11/3/2014 10:54:33 AM
I am not a fan of LM. Like others in this board I do not like their product as much as I like those of others but decisions have been made and for the sake of the USA the F-35 better be a winner.
 
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