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Bam Boozler    we killed the wrong pig   7/8/2014 7:00:48 AM
Perhaps we would not now be regarding all of Europe as "French surrender monkeys" had we kept our nose out of it and watched Hitler become the leader of Europe.
Had Hitler had his way, there wouldn't be a Russian air force to threaten Finland.
And if there was a Russian air force, I doubt that it would dare challenge a victorious Luftwaffe.
Europe sat back and let America "save" it from Hitler, why shouldn't they continue to sit back on their "siesta" or their "la pause gourmand" and let America do it now?
And I doubt that the Communists would have spent 50 years squatting on half of Europe had Hitler won the war.
And I doubt that the native white Aryan population of Europe would now be facing genocide by Islam and third world miscegenation had a champion of the white race been in charge.
And unlike the EU, which surrendered to Islamic oil and rolled out the red carpet to Mohammed's Hordes and offered up it's virgins to rape in the harem and paid an uncountable treasure for Muslim oil to be frittered away and wasted on internecine Jihad, I doubt that Hitler would have bowed down to the Middle Eastern oil powers, he would be the Middle Eastern oil power.
 
 As Churchill said, too late, "We killed the wrong pig".
 
 
 
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manny       7/8/2014 7:30:30 AM
Let's be clear. Russians killed Hitler. Russia would have won and killed Hitler even without U.S help either military or economic.
 
The only thing that would have saved Hitlers life is if he accepted the peace offered to him by Stalin twice during the early days of the German campaign into Russia. If Hitler had accepted that, he would have been able to concentrate on Europe and would have been strong enough to rebuff the U.S invasion. And with some concessions would have possibly been able to make peace with Britain.
 
Then you would have seen a powerful german nazi superpower in the centre of Europe. Their racial purity would have kept arabs out but would it have kept Islam out? The aryan nazi creed is no world religion, if not Christianity something would have taken control of the spiritual heart of the German people. Truth is Nazism is lame cult even by cult standards, it pales in comparison to world religions. Maybe if Hitler had become a god figure or something it could have developed. But as it stands, it would never have protected europe from islamic domination.
 
 
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keffler25       7/8/2014 8:35:41 AM
Native white Aryan population? I think we have a problem here. 

And if there was a Russian air force, I doubt that it would dare challenge a victorious Luftwaffe.

Europe sat back and let America "save" it from Hitler, why shouldn't they continue to sit back on their "siesta" or their "la pause gourmand" and let America do it now?

And I doubt that the Communists would have spent 50 years squatting on half of Europe had Hitler won the war.

And I doubt that the native white Aryan population of Europe would now be facing genocide by Islam and third world miscegenation had a champion of the white race been in charge.

And unlike the EU, which surrendered to Islamic oil and rolled out the red carpet to Mohammed's Hordes and offered up it's virgins to rape in the harem and paid an uncountable treasure for Muslim oil to be frittered away and wasted on internecine Jihad, I doubt that Hitler would have bowed down to the Middle Eastern oil powers, he would be the Middle Eastern oil power.

 

 As Churchill said, too late, "We killed the wrong pig".

 

 

 
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keffler25       7/8/2014 8:38:54 AM


And I doubt that the Communists would have spent 50 years squatting on half of Europe had Hitler won the war.

And I doubt that the native white Aryan population of Europe would now be facing genocide by Islam and third world miscegenation had a champion of the white race been in charge.

And unlike the EU, which surrendered to Islamic oil and rolled out the red carpet to Mohammed's Hordes and offered up it's virgins to rape in the harem and paid an uncountable treasure for Muslim oil to be frittered away and wasted on internecine Jihad, I doubt that Hitler would have bowed down to the Middle Eastern oil powers, he would be the Middle Eastern oil power.

 

 As Churchill said, too late, "We killed the wrong pig".

 

 

 
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Tamerlane       7/8/2014 8:39:43 AM
Concur with Manny.  We fought only a quarter of the Nazi forces, the Sovs faced three quarters, including the best:  the 6th Army, Army Group Courland... et al. The book "Sie Kommen" documents that fact that the soldaten manning Festung Europa were very good by our standards, but they were not the best.  They were occupied elsewhere getting run over by T-34s and getting hosed down with Pappushes.  Mr Aryan, here's what a real German general who actually fought against the French had to say about them:
 

“That men will let themselves be killed where they stand, that is a well-known thing and counted on in every plan of battle. But that men who have retreated for ten days, sleeping on the ground and half-dead with fatigue, should be able to take up their rifles and attack when the bugle sounds, is a thing upon which we never counted. It is a possibility not studied in our war academy.”

 

General Helmuth von Moltke (executor of the famous von Schlieffen Plan) comments about ordinary French soldiers and the reason for the plan’s failure.

 

No Imperial German or notsee soldier ever set foot in Moscow.  Napoleon went to Moscow “Like a man-of-war cutting through a fleet of fishing scows.” 
 
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keffler25       7/8/2014 8:42:21 AM
Native white Aryan population? I think we have a problem here.
 
{Thanks to a screw up in my formatting I have to separate out my comment as a standalone from the utterly unacceptable comment posted by another poster.}
 
By his flawed reasoning, the comedian/singer Danny Thomas, and the fine actor, Omar Sharif, would be terrorists who invaded America.
 
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Tamerlane       7/8/2014 8:43:16 AM
Concur with Manny.  We fought only a quarter of the Nazi forces, the Sovs faced three quarters, including the best:  the 6th Army, Army Group Courland... et al. The book "Sie Kommen" documents that fact that the soldaten manning Festung Europa were very good by our standards, but they were not the best.  They were occupied elsewhere getting run over by T-34s and getting hosed down with Pappushes.  Mr Aryan, here's what a real German general who actually fought against the French had to say about them:
 

“That men will let themselves be killed where they stand, that is a well-known thing and counted on in every plan of battle. But that men who have retreated for ten days, sleeping on the ground and half-dead with fatigue, should be able to take up their rifles and attack when the bugle sounds, is a thing upon which we never counted. It is a possibility not studied in our war academy.”

 

General Helmuth von Moltke (executor of the famous von Schlieffen Plan) comments about ordinary French soldiers and the reason for the plan’s failure.

 

No Imperial German or notsee soldier ever set foot in Moscow.  Napoleon went to Moscow “Like a man-of-war cutting through a fleet of fishing scows.” 
 
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keffler25       7/8/2014 9:12:29 AM
I doubt it would keep Islam out. That little maniac's regime embraced this decidedly evil man  
 
Inherent contradictions in the race theory certain people in that governance espoused also allowed the illegitimate German regime to embrace Hideiki Tojo as a yellow Aryan.    
 
Note I have reasons to criticize Islam, but those reasons are based on certain cultural handicaps that it imposes on its practitioners, such as a lacksidaisical attitude toward reason and rationalism, and a certain superstitious magical thinking which also seems to have afflicted Marxism and Fascism (as well as Christianity before it was rationalized during the Enlightenment.).
 
Not accepting the real is a sure way to retard a culture's progress. Islam apparently does that. And you can check for this by seeing exactly what types of actions Islamic cultures indulge.
 
Enslavement of women, business and general ethical immorality, individual and collective depravity, widespread social hypocrisy between what they claim they are and what they do?
 
People who use their young children as suicide bombers culturally are definitely utter savages. Especially when they justified it. You can barely rate them above the vermin who practiced Human sacrifice and ritual cannibalism.
 
What about the Japanese Kamikaze pilots and sailors? Not the same. The ones who were kamikazes were in a war of national survival, or so they thought, they were at least high school educated, and it was explained to them in stark realistic terms for what they signed up and volunteered to do. And even at that, the Japanese leadership was quite cleaved down the middle as to whether it was morally right to ask this of well-educated  adult men volunteers.
 
The fools who perpetrated the airliner attack on the World Trade Center, were not kamikazes, lest that be brought into argument. In several investigated cases they were quite happy to be sexually promiscuous, drugged up, and were actual party animals before they decided to go on jihad and earn their get into heaven free card with their criminality. 
 
They were not holy warriors, or men fighting for a cause. They were superstition driven dead end losers seeking a way to validate their worthless lives with one act so outre that it would make them famous.     
 
Well they succeeded, and they are being imitated by m ore losers, millions of losers who haven't got the guts to do what they need to do to earn the life they say they are dying for.
  
 
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The only thing that would have saved Hitlers life is if he accepted the peace offered to him by Stalin twice during the early days of the German campaign into Russia. If Hitler had accepted that, he would have been able to concentrate on Europe and would have been strong enough to rebuff the U.S invasion. And with some concessions would have possibly been able to make peace with Britain.

 

Then you would have seen a powerful german nazi superpower in the centre of Europe. Their racial purity would have kept arabs out but would it have kept Islam out? The aryan nazi creed is no world religion, if not Christianity something would have taken control of the spiritual heart of the German people.
Truth is Nazism is lame cult even by cult standards, it pales in comparison to world religions. Maybe if Hitler had become a god figure or something it could have developed. But as it stands, it would never have protected europe from islamic domination.

 

 
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keffler25       7/8/2014 9:27:43 AM
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Let them die, the deluded fools. Humanity will be better off without the lot of them. Just let them die without taking the rest of us with them.  And that rest of us, actually includes all of the decent followers of Islam who just need an honest chance to catch up with the rest of Humanity without the sorry bastards (like the Saudi clergy and royal family for example) who misrule, mislead, and mis-educate them, getting in the people's way.
 
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Actually, it was two fifths of the Germans for the Anglo Americans. Don't forget the air war!
 
And don't forget the Japanese and the Italians. Tally them into the Axis equation and the Russians actually come off terrible as to their total war contribution, having only put up a mere third of the total Allied fight effort, and that not very efficiently or well.    
 
It took the Russians three years to cover simpler ground that it took the Anglo-Americans only TWO. Cross an ocean, fight the length of Italy and across river strewn France at the end of a bollixed supply line the Russian way and the Germans would still be in Rome and still along the Seine. 
 
 Naw... I credit the Russians a great deal, but they were tyros at the game, only managing to outdie the Germans to the Oder. Sooner or later, the survivors Manteuffel taught with the stupid dying OJT would catch on, and finally get  it done with rather simple artillery smother tactics, tank swarming and Human wave assaults, but lets keep it real, shall we? SEVEN MILLION Russian combat dead and as many maimed, while the Anglo Americans in their campaigns proportionally killed and eventually captured as many Germans as the Russians did with far fewer of their own killed than they actually killed Germans? Something about the modern Russian myth does not numerically add up, here.     
 
 
 
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HR    air intrusion   7/8/2014 9:32:31 AM
I am going to return to topic here... the intrusion. Part of the problem is that for combat air patrol these aircrafts including the F-18 are too expensive to fly. The need for a cheaper role fighter is blatantly obvious and many nations should start looking at alternative aircrafts for patrol and escorting of trespassers. 
 
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