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Subject: The True History of Palestine: The Nation-State Fallacy
wjhii    8/24/2005 12:09:26 AM
The True History of Palestine: The Nation-State Fallacy By William John Hagan The Houston Home Journal (Warner Robins, GA) Print Edition 08/24/2005 The current debate on the inevitable future of the ?Palestinian Nation? seems to lack one simple fact: Palestine has no past and was never a sovereign nation. The closest thing the Palestinian people have to a history is that there was once a British Colony from which they had stolen their modern name. After the Allied victory in World War Two, it became clear to even the most anti-Semitic Westerners that the Jewish People deserved to have their nation restored. The Nation of Israel?s first record of historically existence is a mention in the Book of Exodus (3:16),however, even earlier references are made in Genesis to the tribes of Israel. It is both biblical and historical fact that Israel was founded by Moses after the Jewish expulsion from Egypt by Ramases II. This would place this event sometime between 1290 and 1224 BC. The reality that the Palestinians want to keep from you is that there has been a Jewish presence in Israel for almost 3300 years. The history of the Palestinian People in far more recent than that of their Jewish neighbors. In fact, ?Palestine? was created by the British Empire in the days after World War II. According to RockwellLazareth author of the essay ?Who are the Palestinians??, ?There has never been a civilization or a nation referred to as Palestine and the very notion of a Palestinian Arab nation having ancient attachments to the Holy Land going back to time immemorial is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated upon the world! There is not, nor has there ever been, a distinct Palestinian culture or language. Further, there has never been a Palestinian state governed by Arab Palestinians in history, nor was there ever a serious Arab-Palestinian national movement until 1964.? The most disturbing reality is that the ?Palestinians? are not even Arabs at all but Canaanites who have over the years adopted Arab culture and language. For all their history, the Canaanites have been a nomdic sea-faring people who traveled between such nations as Lebannon, Syria,and Turkey but making a premenant home in no land. The British allowed these modren Palastinian Canaanites to set up their tents in colonial Palestine so they could be used as a cheap source of labor for the citrus industry. This historical fact leaves the so-called Palestinians with a far more blundering claim to Israel than illegal Mexican immigrants would have to the United States. [B]Visit http://williamjohnhagan.blogspot.com for the remainder of this article.[/B]
 
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Lanton    RE:The True History of Palestine: The Nation-State Fallacy   8/26/2005 9:56:06 AM
Any sources, other than Rockwell Lazerath, to back up what you're saying?
 
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bombard    RE:The True History of Palestine: The Nation-State Fallacy   9/8/2005 1:35:12 PM
Why is this thread in Military Intellegence forum?
 
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Shirrush    RE:The True History of Palestine: The Nation-State Fallacy   10/30/2005 6:07:39 PM
Bombard, there is no ethnopolitics thread, so it had to be put somewhere. I do think this belongs, however, to the Israel board, although nation-building and ethnoweapons are indeed the domain of intelligence organizations. There is no doubt at all regarding the extreme shallowness of the Palestinians' claim to nationhood. Even granting them a Kna'anite ancestry is nothing more than a cow manure-flavored speculation. These people are uniformly Arabs, and while some of them, especially these in the staunchly pro-hamas Southern Judea area villages, are likely to be the descendants of the ancient Hebrew Judean denizens of the Hebron hills according to mt-DNA markers and suchlike, most of today's Palestinians are the descendants of Syrian Plateau semi-nomads and Nile Delta landless laborers that migrated in when the early zionist movement and their Rotschild backers started developing the citrus industry and the wineries in what was then the south of the Turkish Wilayet of Damascus, district of Jerusalem. This was a couple of decades before the British mandate of Palestine became an administrative reality as an outcome of WWI. The Palestinians are therefore a recent, and quite synthetic national entity created as an ethnoweapon against what was seen as a western imperialistic enterprise, by a coalition of Soviet intel planners and Arab nationalists, with the enthusiastic help of this ever-ready conflict perpetuator, the UN. The Jews, which as a national entity can be traced to the elegant ethnogenic manipulations of a certain Egyptian priest-prince more than 35 centuries ago, have a detailed documentation on how it was done. It called the Exodus and it's in that Bible in the drawer besides the bed in most hotel rooms. I am quite certain that neither artificiality nor recent age can substract any of the legitimacy of a nation, and even our ancient, and perfectly synthetic as well, Jewish people is made of just that, people, for whom nationhood is all in their hearts and minds. The recurrent BS claims about the lack of substance of the Palestinian people are therefore void and immaterial, and of absolutely no relevance or usefulness to the understanding of the Middle-East conflict and it's eventual resolution. If something that bugs you is quite new and visibly hand-made, what's the use of running in circles around it, pointing at it and hysterically yelling that it can't be real?
 
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battar    The past is where the sun doesn't shine - Behind   10/31/2005 10:41:36 AM
Any one who glances at the history books can see that the Palestinian people have no past prior to 1948. But what do you call 2 million or so people who don't seem to be citizens of any known state? They certainly are not citizens of the Jewish state, even if some of them currently live under Israeli rule, and I cant see many Arab nations running to adopt a population that routinely burns American flags and fires automatic weapons during funerals of what they call martyrs but what residens of the free world call terrorists. So, more important than the question "where is their past", is the question "Where is their future". Not in my back yard, I hope.
 
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