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China Has F-35 Fever
SYSOP
10/23/2014 6:15:22 AM
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tteng
10/23/2014 4:00:10 PM
Make that: China has F-35-detecting-radar fever. China replicated the F-35/22 to refine their anti-stealth radar.
Make no sense for China to build a fleet of F-35 and F-22 copies (even if they are exactly the same); they are clear as day light on the US radar.
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keffler25
10/23/2014 4:13:54 PM
Industrial processes. The difference between math and hardware is HUGE. The PRC is wasting its time.
Make that: China has F-35-detecting-radar fever. China replicated the F-35/22 to refine their anti-stealth radar.
Make no sense for China to build a fleet of F-35 and F-22 copies (even if they are exactly the same); they are clear as day light on the US radar.
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Blacktail
10/26/2014 9:34:24 PM
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China has since developed two “stealth” fighter designs, both of which have elements very similar to the F-35
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Actually, China has THREE stealth fighters.
The J-20...;
China has since developed two “stealth” fighter designs, both of which have elements very similar to the F-35.
...J-31...:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-31
...and the new J-18;
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140705035026-62667533-jane-s-it-s-beyond-all-doubt-china-is-developing-j-18-vtol-stealth-fighter
As for "elements very similar to the F-35", none of these are single-engine aircraft, nor are any directly related to one another.
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keffler25
10/26/2014 10:48:23 PM
This has been discussed ad nauseum. China has three potemkins that are accidentally allowed to be photographed. You don't keep building badly copied Sukhois if your own 'stealth stuff' is any damned good. I wish people would LOOK at what the Chinese actually DO instead of what they SHOW.
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China has since developed two “stealth” fighter designs, both of which have elements very similar to the F-35
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Actually, China has THREE stealth fighters.
The J-20...;
China has since developed two “stealth” fighter designs, both of which have elements very similar to the F-35.
...J-31...:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-31
...and the new J-18;
https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140705035026-62667533-jane-s-it-s-beyond-all-doubt-china-is-developing-j-18-vtol-stealth-fighter
As for "elements very similar to the F-35", none of these are single-engine aircraft, nor are any directly related to one another.
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Nate Dog
Keffler/BT
10/27/2014 6:41:51 PM
Hard to look at what the chinese actually do, as they're pretty good at shooting anyone that points a camera at what they dont want filmed.
If you mean the copied mig-23's we frequently see pulling incompetent intercepts of US elnit then, yep, they've got nada.
BT,
As to elements that are similar, think the reference is more to the angled surfaces (the degree of the angles matter apparently) and the materials used. Mind you, think the material is from the blackhawk that went down in the Osama raid and was promptly shipped off to the chinese.
Yes, they're twin engined not single planes.
Put that down to designers who know how unreliable their engines are, and are building in redundancies so as not to lose a plane every time an engine flames out (judging by the better made russian stuff, thats pretty often). Doesn't mean they aren't doing their best to copy.
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keffler25
10/28/2014 7:37:45 AM
If you know for what to look (radio beam spikes, wrong heat management, wrong jointing) you can tell a potemkin right off.
If you mean the copied mig-23's we frequently see pulling incompetent intercepts of US elnit then, yep, they've got nada.
BT,
As to elements that are similar, think the reference is more to the angled surfaces (the degree of the angles matter apparently) and the materials used. Mind you, think the material is from the blackhawk that went down in the Osama raid and was promptly shipped off to the chinese.
Yes, they're twin engined not single planes.
Put that down to designers who know how unreliable their engines are, and are building in redundancies so as not to lose a plane every time an engine flames out (judging by the better made russian stuff, thats pretty often). Doesn't mean they aren't doing their best to copy.
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