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mike_golf RE:A couple items 10/19/2004 9:44:38 AM

"Interesting, but what do following short cuts stand for: POL, ADA, FAC and FO?" POL - Petroleum, Oil, Lubricants ADA - Air Defense Artillery FAC - Forward Air Controller FO - Forward Observer (artillery) "Also, in the three troop aviation squadron, how many aircraft are there per squadron?" There used to be 16 helicopters in a troop, I know that has changed but don't remember what the change was.

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MikkoLn RE:Brigades and Regiments 10/19/2004 11:43:37 AM

>>What is 'jaeger'? I thought it means 'hunter' in German. The term is retained as a traditional unit nomeclature. German term has established itself as a commonly used description worldwide, though the writing and pronouncing is variable. The composition and model of these troops vary according to country, but basically you can call them light infantry. In Finnish army the term is used to separate local area defence or limited mobility formations (infantry) and high mobility first line maneuver forces (jaeger). For the usage of division as the basic counting/comparision unit, I think it appears to be rather justified as for long division has been the sole main battle formation of about all armies. Only recently the model has been chancing more extensively around the world with the role of brigade growing (though in some countries brigade has been the main formation already for several decades now).

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AlbanyRifles RE:And a couple more.... 10/19/2004 1:34:17 PM

Actually, the corps MPs take them and hand them over to a theater military police brigade who then holds them. The guys at Abu Grahb prison were some of those......they aren't all like those knuckleheads). A company can handle about 1500 EPWs.. A Brigade can have around 8 of these companies.

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Roman RE:Roman 10/20/2004 7:03:12 PM

"1. Mech - they all ride in Bradleys 2. Air Assault - they get to the battle in helos 3. Leg - they walk" Probably true, but where do the new 'Stryker' brigades fit in? They seem to be very different from normal brigades and seem to have different attachments too - right? How exactly do they differ from 'normal' brigades? "For your air support. Once again the MC does have organic air support. Hey we have our own Air Force! Heres how its chopped. A MEU gets half a fixed wing squadron, (Harriers) enough 46s to lift a reenforced company (12) a C&C bird (1 UH-1), 4 cobras and 4 ch-53s. Relize thatif tasked with offensive operations there is normally a carrier battle group nearby." Half a squadron of Harriers is 12 aircraft - right? Also, it seems that this level air support is not considered sufficient by the Marines, since you mention the need for having a carrier battlegroup nearby.

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Roman Divisions 10/20/2004 7:08:38 PM

A division would, I assume, be made up of 3-4 maneuver brigades - such as the ones the structure of which was explained to me in previous posts. Apart from such 3-4 maneuver brigades (would they all generally be of the same type, or would it be different brigades) what other organic elements and attachments would a division have?

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Charia RE:Divisions 10/26/2004 4:30:32 PM

Unfortunately, I can only advise from the British perspective. A British armoured division would be made up of the following; Main Fighting Component - 3 Brigades of armour and infantry (a variation of 1 x Main Battle Tank Regt/Bn and 2 x Armoured Inf Bn or 1 x inf and 2 x tank) Recce - 1 Armoured recce regt (bn size) Aviation - 1 Regt (36 x helicopters) Support Component - Artillery - 3 Royal Artillery Regts (4 batteries of 8 guns) and an Air Def Regt Engineer - 4 Royal Engineer Field Regiments (Bn size) Signals - 3 Signals regiments (Bn size) Logistic Component - Transport & Supply - 4 Logistics Regt (Bn size) Mechanical - 3 support bns Medical - 1 medical regiment Provost - 1 RMP provost company Normally, this would be accompanied by RAF helicopters and CAS (close air support) aircraft and other small attachments. I believe the American army and marines work on a similar line, but bigger! Hope this helps

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Roman RE:Divisions 11/4/2004 6:26:48 AM

Thanks Charia - do you also have any idea of how it would be for other types of divisions and for divisions from countries other than Britain.

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Roman Brigades - Always the same? 3/2/2005 1:50:16 AM

Ok, so a brigade consists of 3 (usually, but can be 2-4) maneouver battalions, a brigade HQ and a whole bunch of other combat support and combat service support entities. These 3 maneouver battalions can be of various types depending on the type of brigade in question. However, I would like to ask: do the other combat support and combat service support entities stay the same no matter the type of brigade or do they also vary by type of brigade? Does the HQ stay the same or does the HQ change depending on the type of brigade in question?

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