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Subject: Military career of Ataturk. (Part 1)
ilpars    6/15/2004 3:06:21 PM
This is requested by densoflex. I thought best to put this under another topic.

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk (1881-1938):
Ataturk was born at Selanica at the time a cosmopolit city, it was the cultural capital of Ottoman Empire the most "European" city of the empire.
He were always a brilliant student especially at mathematics, literature and French. He finished the military academy as the second best. Like all top graduates of Ottoman Academies he were sent to Europe to learn from an European military academy. In his case it was Ecole Militarie of France.
He was handsome and atractive. In all of his life he was a lady's men. Later a 17 years old Zsa Zsa Gabor was one of his conquests. In his letters he told he had his most beatiful year in Paris. Appearently he was a popular gentleman at Paris.
After his return, he wrote several books about training and commanding of platoon, company, battalion and regimently. I have these books probably they were greatly influenced by the French regulations.
He was appoined to a unit at Seşanica his home city.
His company and later battalion was the model of his ideas. From all over Selanica, young officers were coming to see his training methods.
He was one of the leaders of young idealistic offiecers of Turkish army.
Other most influential young officers of his age were Enver (his greatest rival) who trained at Germany became a personal friend of later Kaiser of Germany in WW1; Cemal who was trained at UK; and naval officer Rauf who trained at USA.
Note: As you can see the most brilliant Ottoman officers always trained at other countries to bring new military ideas to the empire. Side effect was they too much influenced by the country they were sent to.

These 4 men were all very active in the secret Ittihad and Terakki Party which was trying to make a coup to make Ottoman Empire a parliamentry monarchy like United Kingdom. The coup succeeded at 1908. Ittihad and Terakki Party became a legal party and entered the first elections of Ottoman Empire. They were not majority and did not form the government but they were very influential. Enver and Cemal were at the top circle of the party but Mustafa Kemal and Rauf bey were not. That was the time Enver-Kemal enmity has begun. They were very friendly and close to each other but the ones who knew them did nknow that they hated each other. Kemal was openly discussing that Army personnel must not involve in politics. To make an example he quited from the party.

At 1911, Italy invaded Libya last Ottoman land at Africa. As at late 19th century UK had invaded Egypt, there were no land connection to Libya from the empire and Italian navy was much superior. Ottoman government sent voluntary officers to Libya to organize defence from the locals. Both Enver and Mustafa Kemal went and both were very successful against Italians.

At 1912, Balkan states (Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece and Montenegro) declared war to Ottoman Empire. The empire needed every officer he had. Both commanders started to return. First Balkan War was a total disaster for the empire. Balkan states attacked the Empire before it finished its mobilization. In fact mobilisation had planned so badly that, the war ended before the mobilisation. Political enmities divided the officers corps so badly that, they could not organised a defense. A politically superior junior officer refusing to obey a politically inferior senior officer was a common thing. The result was a total disaster. Only battleships had stopped the highly trained and well commanded Bulgarian army at Catalca (150 km from Istanbul).
Selanica was lost to Greek army. A close friend of Mustafa Kemal later wrote that Mustafa Kemal cried after he learned the lost of his home city. He continously told his fellow officer "How could you do that? How could you lost Selanica?".
On his return Mustafa Kemal was on the staff of the corps which defended Geliboli against Bulgarians. A great fortune for the future.

Bulgarian army was much more successful than his allies and made a mistake of alienating all of them. Previously neutral Romania opened the second phase. Romania, Greece, Serbia and ottoman Empire attacked Bulgaristan. Enver was the first officer who entered Edirne one of the ex-capitals of Ottoman Empire. He used this greatly for propaganda. He was known as the saviour of Edirne. Cemal was very successfull at Catalca front. Both men returned to Istanbul and started a new coup. This time they put a puppet to the throne Murad V. Enver, Cemal and Talat (civilian leader of Ittihad and Terakki) trio became the new true leaders of the empire. They all promoted to Pasha (use for both Generals and high level bureacrats). Enver Pasha became the new CiC of the empire before commanding any unit larger than a battalion.
He probably knew his limitations and turned to his old friend now Kaiser of Germany. Germany sent a advisory council commanded by General von Goltz. Advisors included some very talented German staff officers.
Enver showed his only great talents bravery and determination and fired all officers that are trained in one of military academies. Reduce the rank of officers who graduated from the academies before the reorganizations were made.
General von Goltz energitically planned the new mobilisation plans which suited much more to the realities of Ottoman Empire. Ottoman army trained vigoriously. The years 1913 and 1914 were a great transformation for Ottoman army and it brought a nasty surprise to the Allies in the WW1.
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:Military career of Ataturk. (Part 1)   6/15/2004 8:27:25 PM
Ilpars, can you recommend any biographies on Ataturk? (in english!)
 
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ilpars    Recommendation of a biography of Ataturk   6/16/2004 2:15:50 AM
"Ataturk: The Biography of the Founder of Modern Turkey" by Andrew Mango. An excellent biography. Even better than Turkish ones as not biased by political ideas.
 
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ilpars    RE:Military career of Ataturk. (Part 1)   6/16/2004 4:59:22 AM
A correction: General von Sanders was the commanding officer of the German advisors sent to Turkey. General von Goltz was an advisor in Turkey in pre-Balkan wars time. I have the exact list of all the high ranking officers of the advisory council sent in 1913 if you are interested.
 
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densoflex    RE:Military career of Ataturk. (Part 1)   6/16/2004 5:13:52 AM
Ilpars, thanks for this very interesting first part. I have a few questions: (1) What rank had Kemal at the time of Italian and Balkans Wars? (2) Was Kemal actively involved in the re-shaping of Turkish army in 1913-14, or was he sulking in Gallipoli? Did he know and get on well with Goltz? (3) I don't know how to interpret your last sentences. Were Enver's firing of military academy officers as well as rank reduction, positive things ? If yes, why? (4) Balkans Wars aren't exactly easy to understand to westerners... So phase 1 was Turkey against all the others while phase 2 was Bulgaria against the others. It was followed by a phase 3 during WWI which is even more complicated. Anyway, what do you mean when you state that the advance of Bulgarian army during BW2 was stopped by battleships? Was the Turkish navy able to block a land force by the means of artillery fire? Definitely looking forward to reading your part II! Densoflex
 
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ilpars    RE:Military career of Ataturk. (Part 1) - densoflex   6/16/2004 5:41:18 AM
1. Mustafa Kemal was a captain at Libya War and I think promoted to Major during Balkan Wars. 2. Sorry it should be General von Sanders. I have a bad habit of confusing persons. Mustafa Kemal was against rising German influence in the army but he was very active in the re-shaping period. I have 1 of his letters to Enver congraluting Enver's reforms. 3. I might have wrote it wrong. Enver fired all non-military academy graduates from the officer corps and reduce the ranks of all elder remaining officers. In this way, very well trained young officers could take more responsibility in the army. Because of lack of high ranking officers in the army after this reforms; usually units were commanded by more junior officers. For example divisions were commanded by colonels in WW1 Ottoman army. 4. Aproaches to Istanbul is a peninsula. Ottoman navy was bombarding Bulgarian army both from Black Sea and Marmara Sea. So Bulgarian army's both flanks were under heavy bombardment. That gave Turkish army enough time to organise a strong defense line at Catalca. Then Turkish army could mobilised enough soldiers to have at last a superiority in numbers. Balkan Wars teached Turkish army how important the mobilization is in Turkish army. At 1913-1914 period many very useful Prussian military tradions entered into Turkish. Most important is the strict discipline. I have done only 8 month conscription service in the army and have finished my service 1 year ago. 2 weeks ago I have to go to the military court to be a witness for a fistfight between 2 soldiers happened while I was at the army. While I was waiting at the coridor, an officer passed, I was without thinking on attention and I was not the only civilian that did it.
 
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densoflex    RE:Military career of Ataturk. (Part 1) - densoflex   6/16/2004 8:51:32 AM
I heard indeed many times that young Turks were proud to make their military service and were taking it very seriously. This may be slightly off topic (that'll make us wait for your Atatürk Vol 2!), but what's going on today on Turkey's eastern borders? Is the region completely under the authority of Ankara? Is there a low intensity guerilla waged by Kurds? And how do the Turks view the latest developments of Bush's war in Iraq? Densoflex
 
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ilpars    Turkey, today - densoflex   6/16/2004 9:36:34 AM
As you might know PKK again declared war to Turkey at 1st June after 5 years. Strangely nothing much happened since. Just several small sized attacks to soldiers and pursuit against attackers. PKK (Kongra-Gel) is nowadays trying to negotiate with government. Mrs. Zana and her comrades just set free from prison and legitimate Kurdish party of Turkey are trying to be negotiater between both sides. Government only answer to Mrs. Zana's group and Hadep was "Turkey never negotiate with terrorists. If they surrender, we can talk about their future." Barzani and Talabani are supporting PKK, so things are a little complicated. Turkish view against Iraq is very complicated. (Not considering far left and far right. They are known to be anti-US). USA is an ally, Saddam was not. On the other hand 86 years ago Iraq people were living in the same country with Turks. We have to support our ally, but noone like to see Iraq suffer. Iraq being a democracy will be a good thing but noone believe that Iraq can be a democracy. If Iraq ceased to exist; Iran might make a move. Iran has an enmity against Turkey and Turkey has legal rights over Mosul-Kerkuk area. There is a small Turkish population in North Iraq but they are not represented in the new Iraq government. You see Iraq is too much complicated from our point of view.
 
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Heorot    RE:Military career of Ataturk. (Part 1) - Ilpars.   6/16/2004 6:27:10 PM
I am more interested in the war after WW1 when the allies tried to grab the best bits of Turkey for themselves. I saw a documentary recently on Ataturk and this part was not gone into in any detail. Can you explain this campaign for us please.
 
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ilpars    RE:Military career of Ataturk. (Part 1) - Ilpars.   6/17/2004 1:59:51 AM
I am planning to write his WW1 career tonight and his leading of "Turkish Independence War" after that.
 
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ilpars    Prequel for Part2 : The leading Troika of OE and Mustafa Kemal   6/17/2004 4:12:21 PM
In the 1913-1918 period Ottoman Empire ruled by Ittihad and Terakki party. And this party leader by 3 men. These 3 men are close friends to the outside world. But in fact there were a fierce rivalry between themselves. 1 interesting note about rivalry is all of them builded their own secret service from the old Imperial Secret service. (Ottoman Empire Secret Service was very old. Rumored to be founded by Mehmed I at the start of 15th century to destroy his rivals in the civil war). Talad Pasha: Prime Minister. Come from the bureacractic part of the party. Very intelligent men. He did not have any power in the army side of the party. In the troika he was responsible for all the non-military issues. His secret service was mostly bureacratic civilians. Enver Pasha: CiC of Ottoman army. He was born at 1881. They were rivals with Mustafa Kemal even both were captain. Very brave, very charismatic, dedicated, good organizer. Never commanded a unit larger than a battalion before becoming CiC. Although he was good at grand strategy, he was inept at operational strategy. Therefore he failed miserably at his winter assault at Caucasia. 30,000 freezed to death in his in theory striking outflanking manuever. He had best secret service. He had agents in many countries from Libya to Russia; from India to Indonesia. He was a friend of Kaiser from his years at the German military Academy. He was very pro-German. Enver had a secret agreement with Germany for Ottoman Empire's entering in a possible war on German side. He was married to the daughter of Sultan. He is very religious. Never drinked alchole, never been in nightlife or never had another love affair during his marriage. He openly critisised Mustafa Kemal's nightlife as unsuitable for an Ottoman officer. Cemal Pasha: Responsible for the Middle-East part of the empire. His secret service was active only at Middle-East. Close friend of Mustafa Kemal but he even had hard times because of Mustafa Kemal critisism. He was trained at British Military Academy. He was pro-British. But this could be just to neutralise Enver's Germanophilism. He was against entering WW1. Mustafa Kemal: A man of principles. He never compromised and openly critisised anyone who has done something wrong. Therefore he had many enemies but also few very close friends who looks him as their leader. Very ambitious. Highly talented in the military art. Wrote many books about military trainning and tactics. Unlike Enver he likes drinking, night-life and beatiful ladies. Enver considered him as his only dangereous enemy. Enver once said to Cemal "You want me to promote Mustafa but you do not know him. If I make him a Pasha, he will want to be an Army commander. If I make him an army commander, he will want to have my place. And if ever achieve my place he will want to be Sultan." When Mustafa Kemal informed about the incident he said "I did not know that Enver is that clever." Otto Liman von Sanders: The head of German military mission to Turkey. Enver made him Inspector of the Turkish Army and later gave him the command of 5th Army defending Ottoman Army. That was something unheard of in the empire. There were foreign Generals in the Turkish Army as advisors before but they were never held a high command. So his appointment had resulted in great disturbance in the Ottoman Army. Mustafa kemal was against this appointment and like always he did not keep this to himself. So at the beginning Von Sanders relations was very cool with Mustafa Kemal. Destiny force them to serve together for a long time. At 1918 when they had to seperate they were close friends. Von Sanders is not very talented commander but he was very good administrator. He worked hard for the reconstruction of Turkish army. He personally worked on the new mobilisation plans of the Ottoman Empire. He eresed all reserve formations. And created an expandable force structure. In his mobilisation structure every unit has only skeleton strength in peace time. New recruits were directly incorprated into existing units. He was decisive in his decisions and unlike many commanders he always openly apreciated the talent in his subordinates when he saw it. In time all of his subordinates loved serving in his command.
 
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densoflex    RE:Prequel for Part2 : The leading Troika of OE and Mustafa Kemal   6/18/2004 8:21:52 AM
So, at the outbreak of WW1, Turkey was run by a political party with three leading perosnalities: Talad (PM), Enver and Celad. But had the Empire still (at least) nominally a sovereign? If yes what were the powers of the Sultan ? Was there a constitution and could Turkey be called a parlementary regime in 1914? Also, was Enver Pasha CiC (i.e. military) or instead Minister of War (i.e. civilian)? Same for Cemal: was he a minister or a kind of military or civilian governor? (These questions to understand better the structure of Ottoman goverment). At this time Kemal had a military appointment, so nominally he was a mere subordinate officer amongst many others. Is it correct, or already at this time he had an influence which was far beyond his nominal rank? Did he communicate freely with whoever in the government? Densoflex
 
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ilpars    RE:Prequel for Part2 : The leading Troika of OE and Mustafa Kemal   6/18/2004 8:53:42 AM
There was constitution, a parliament and a Sultan. When WW1 started, Ittihad and Terakki declared a Martial Law and disbanded the parliament. Legally Sultan (Murad V) had many rights, but he was afraid to use them. So practically OE was ruled by a Party dictatorship. Enver Pasha was CiC and minister of War. That was what Mustafa Kemal objected. In Ittihad and Terakki rule, civilian and military positions are intermingled. Cemal Pasha was both commander of 4th Army at Syria and also responsible for all the Civil administration of Syria and Iraq. At 1914 Mustafa Kemal was a lietunant Colonel. he was one of the very few who openly critisized Party's politics and still have never have been sued or lost his command. That was because Cemal Pasha's protection. But that does not saved him from Mustafa kemal's critisism either. Mustafa Kemal already well known in the army because of his military books and critisism and had far more influence in the army that his rank would suggest. All officers knew that his promotion was stopped by because of Enver Pasha. But after Gellipoli even Enver could not stop his rapid promotion. He simply proved that he was the best commander in the army. Denying to promote him could damage Enver's reputation. After Gellipoli he had so much prestige that, he could comminicate with anyone in the cabinet. Once he even tried to replace Enver. After that incident Enver never let him to stay in Istanbul. He immediately sent him to Syrian front under the command of Falkenhayn. Falkenhayn and Mustafa truly hated each other and Falkenhayn asked his removal from command. Then he was sent to Germany with Crown Prince Vahdettin. After his return he again sent to Syria this time under the command of his friend von Sanders. As a note: At the start of WW1, Mustafa Kemal was at Bulgaria as a military attache. He tried hard for a Bulgarian-Ottoman alliance before both sides joined the Central powers. After watching an Opera at Sofia, he told his Bulgarian officer friend "Now, I know how you defeated us at Balkan Wars. You are West, we are still East."
 
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macawman    RE:Prequel for Part2 : The leading Troika of OE and Mustafa Kemal   6/19/2004 12:50:08 AM
Interesting thread ilpars. I find it odd that the 2nd language with the business/technical class in Turkey is German, especially since Ataturk was pro British. One thought on the subject could be because of a substantial number of Turks working in Germany. I realize that this German influence could be waning since German immagration laws hve become stricter since the reunification. Your thoughts on the subject..
 
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ilpars    Business-Technical terms in Turkish language - macawman   6/19/2004 4:03:04 AM
Many technical terms used in Turkish comes from German language. That is largely because the influence of Jewish scientists that escaped from Germany to Turkey in Turkish science between 1930-1960 period. In business most of the imported terms came from English.
 
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