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Subject: What are the top 10 most powerful nations ( not largerst )
The Warrior    8/19/2005 1:35:27 PM
1) United States of America
2) People's Republic of China
3) Russian Federation
4) Republic of India
5) Islamic Republic of Pakistan
6) United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
7) Republic of France
8) Federal Republic of Germany
9) Republic of South Korea
10) Federative Republic of Brazil
 
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GOP       9/15/2007 11:52:03 AM
Turkey ahead of India? Give me a freaking break kane, you are so biased it's sickening. Turkey is probably around 12th or so really. You always argue that Turkey is better than said country, because of some ancient history bullshit. Today is today, and Ataturk cannot come back from the grave and lead you off to war anymore. Honestly, if the Germans or French (as you mentioned) came to town and started dropping precision bombing, it would be over quick. I know that sounds mean, but you greatly overestimate your countries military prowess.
 
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AdvanceAustralia    Kane   9/20/2007 1:06:46 PM

do not forget turkey the warrior.brazil,pakistan is not stronger than us.And india,china,england,france,germany can not defeat us by themself.they need help as they did in history.actually that wasn't enough we beat them.
I don't like having to point this out but you didn't beat them. That is why you are Turkey and not the Ottoman Empire.

Cheers.

 
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GOP       9/20/2007 2:39:21 PM

Besides, infantry-wise there is the US Army black berets, the green berets, the Delta Force, the Navy SEALs, the Marines...
Black Berets? What the hell? You mean the 75th Rangers?
"Green Berets" = Army SF.
 
"Delta Force" = CAG or SFOD-D.
 
Marines are not a special operations force. They have MARSOC, but alone they are a medium infantry force with a amphibious focus.

Sorry, your post just jumped out to me as highly uneducated.
 
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ngxthree       9/21/2007 10:59:27 AM



Besides, infantry-wise there is the US Army black berets, the green berets, the Delta Force, the Navy SEALs, the Marines...

Black Berets? What the hell? You mean the 75th Rangers?

"Green Berets" = Army SF.

 

"Delta Force" = CAG or SFOD-D.

 

Marines are not a special operations force. They have MARSOC, but alone they are a medium infantry force with a amphibious focus.

Sorry, your post just jumped out to me as highly uneducated.


Black berets are standard issued to all US Army personnel. I'm not referring to the 75th. They wear tan. I'm sorry if it's "highly uneducated" to you but perhaps I could have phrased it in a better way as perhaps I have considered the entire US Army as an infantry arm including its special forces thus my mistake, dear Sire. But I believe this topic is about the top ten most powerful nations and not special forces along? I'd made my point on how such topics are rather, well, flawed in my POV.

I'm a Singaporean. Doesn't mean that I'm sure to say that 300,000 conscripts can take over Johore in less than 4 days and hold it without American help, in the form of a CBG. Our pre-emptive will be justified on the means of open hostilities that put both nations on the brink of war but what will the world opinion be? What will America be like, without EU or anyone supporting it? No more lead coated toys from PRC but certainly there are things you can't do without! Thus when you want to consider the most powerful nations on Earth, people with different POVs will always argue because their perspective differs. So wassapoint?
 
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animovk    GANDHI'S INDIA   10/3/2007 2:58:10 AM
Hey,
           Much as I enjoyed the discussion (The list), the list I feel is immaterial given todays realities.Wars will no longer be decided on plain battle grounds but will(and I hope not) be fought in our backyards.The victor will not be the one with the most firepower, but the one with the least moral fibre.Civilized trained men fight for causes and not just to obliterate the enemy and all his kin.The most powerful list will then read like the list of most wanted terrorist outfits and rogue nations.I ask you all then to exclude India from either lists. Dispite what some our politicians would like to project my country as, we are at heart a peace loving nation, we have not invaded any neighbouring nation, only protected our soverignty from time to time. The young in this country(I presume to speak for them), want peace with our neighbours(two in particular-care to guess).
BHUTAN if any of you have heard measures its GDP in terms of a GROSS HAPPINESS PRODUCT.Would any of you care to list the top ten countries in terms of GHP.(hope India makes it there)
 
 
 
 
 
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kyleovuk       3/3/2008 9:19:18 AM
A thinktank for the goverment of China created this rank of the most powerful countries. This was not just some random person on the internet, an actuall proffesional for the goverment decided this.

World's most powerful nations (ranked according to GDP, military power, diplomacy, capital strength, technological power, natural resources, human resources, government coordination and control capability, information and communication)

1) United States - 90.69
2) Britain - 65.04
3) Russia - 63.03
4) France - 62
5) Germany - 61.93
6) China - 59.10
7) Japan - 57.84
8 ) Canada - 57.09
9) South Korea - 53,2
10) India - 50.43
 
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Herald12345       3/3/2008 9:08:05 PM

A thinktank for the goverment of China created this rank of the most powerful countries. This was not just some random person on the internet, an actuall proffesional for the goverment decided this.

World's most powerful nations (ranked according to GDP, military power, diplomacy, capital strength, technological power, natural resources, human resources, government coordination and control capability, information and communication)

1) United States - 90.69
2) Britain - 65.04
3) Russia - 63.03
4) France - 62
5) Germany - 61.93
6) China - 59.10
7) Japan - 57.84
8 ) Canada - 57.09
9) South Korea - 53,2
10) India - 50.43

Interesting. As usual the PRCs got it mostly wrong. Germany is stronger, France is weaker China is exaggerated and the value for Japan and for India is totally incorrect.

Herald

 
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Something Meatier       3/7/2008 5:46:59 PM
This depends on a lot of factors.  As the founder of this site (I think) once pointed out, there are only three countries now that can unilaterally project force globally (America, Britain, and France), and only one of them that can do so at any level above expeditionary force.  On that scale, there are only three countries to rank.  However, from a defensive standpoint, a country like China is actually stronger than any single state in Europe, and even India probably is.  Maybe the only way to really list them is by offensive, and defensive capacity.  Then there's latent capacity, which would propel a country like Japan past any in Europe, and into the #2 offensive position, with Germany able to leapfrog France and Britain as well.  Just as important as anything else is the "paper tiger" factor.  How strong is the public's stomach?  And how strong is the leadership's will, or ability, to go against public sentiment?  How tough can the military get with the enemy without the media and human rights groups screaming that there are abuses?  All Western nations weaken noticeably when that's factored in.
 
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Nasty German Idiot       3/11/2008 8:18:55 PM
"Just as important as anything else is the "paper tiger" factor.  How strong is the public's stomach?  And how strong is the leadership's will, or ability, to go against public sentiment? "

I guess Germany is the counry with the biggest "paper tiger" factor in Europe, let alone the reserve:

Exerpt from wikipedia / outtake of  the Soldiers law:

Every conscript which has served at least a day in the Bundeswehr is a reservist, unless he is declared ineligible for military service or has made a claim of conscientious objection. Soldiers of enlisted ranks with a limited contract (either 4, 8 or 12 years) or professional soldiers, who have filled their tour of duty, are likewise part of the reserve. This is also the case for women, but on the basis of the Soldatengesetz (Eng: Soldier Bill), not the Wehrpflichtgesetz (Conscription Bill). Every soldier follows his rank with the initials "d.R." ("der Reserve" - "the reserve"). So it does not affect whether the soldier is called up, placed in an inactive formation, or not. Only professional soldiers use the appellation "a.D. d.R" ("außer Dienst / der Reserve" - "out of service / reserve") after the end of their service. All others (part-time soldiers and conscripts) strictly use "d.R." until the end of their lives.
Reservists are an integral part of the Bundeswehr. They are essential for the capability of the armed forces in time of war.
Reservists can be active in the Bundeswehr in addition to their mandatory service. This mostly happens through (mostly voluntarily) military exercises or official events. Apart from that the Bundeswehr organises reservist unions as particularly representative supporting organisations of "voluntarily reservist work".

Eligibility for compulsory military service for soldiers and other servicemen of low rank ends at the end of the 45th year of age. Thereafter the conscript is no longer part of the reserve. Despite that the appellations "a.D." and/or "d.R." may still be used. Conscription for under-officers and officers lasts until the 60th year of age. Until the 32nd year of age every conscript is subject to military inspection.

Recognised conscientious objectors, who have competed their civil service, are nonetheless part of the reserve and in the event of war will be given a suitable non-combatant role outside the Bundeswehr, such as emergency medical services, clearing debris or minesweeping.

All conscripts who have not done their service belong to the Ersatzreserve (replacement reserve).

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Of course the active reserve which trains regularly and is going on foreign missions is much smaller (35.000 for the Army, that would be the equivalent to the US National Guard)  But theoretically, I estimated that at the current rate of 60.000 Soldiers going through conscription each year, the theoretical number of German Reserves which could be called up stands somewhere between 8 - 10 million. ( 10 million would really mean total mobilisation, "Letztes Aufgebot" was the term in 1945 for that. - every former conscript  from 18 - 60 called up)

I would give the "Peoples stomach" award to Britain though ... unless German Mainland is really threatened which it is not at the moment.
 
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rider43       6/24/2008 8:10:59 PM
as the tittle does not specify in what you realy mean bassing it on a mix of economic, military, capability on sustainability, resources, population and education on that population. Countries like Isriel and South Korea are over rated for with out forign support would colapes very quickly. Even China and India gaining ground very fast are still reliant on western money to buy the goods of wich they vastley produce for export. Sleeper countries with week armies but massive economies and recourses would convert very quickly in a hostal world, Germany, Japan, Canada and Australia. Saying the poop realy hit the fan and evry country was completly on its own the list would look like this. 1 USA 2 Russia 3 China 4 Germany 5 UK 6 France 7 Japan 8 Canada 9 Italy 10 Australia
 
If Russia, Sadia Arabia, and Canada didnt exist neither would 91% of the worlds oil supply.
 
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Pikey       8/8/2008 1:57:31 PM
Yeah i agree, why is india and pakistan above the UK and France??
 
India will be like no. 2 but for a long time they are a devolping country and i dont even know why pakistan is in there it should go:
 
1. United States of America
2. China
3. United Kingdom
4. France
5. Russia
6. Japan
7. Germany
8. India
9. Brazil
10. South Korea
 
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INDIANS       8/29/2008 7:06:28 AM

1) United States of America
2) People's Republic of China
3) Russian Federation
4) Republic of India
5) Islamic Republic of Pakistan
6) United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
7) Republic of France
8) Federal Republic of Germany
9) Republic of South Korea
10) Federative Republic of Brazil

the REAL POWERFUL NATION in the whole wide world is INDIA because this nation knows how to live with peace,harmony and love.and truly love is the most powerful element than any military or army....so EAST OR WEST INDIA IS THE BEST!!!! it is the number one nation...
 
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Nasty German Idiot       8/29/2008 7:22:04 AM
As long as 50 % of Indians dont have access to a water toilet,  and are advised to eat rats, and their city mayors get killed by apes, I wouldnt call it the best country yet.  
  

 
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Gajjon       9/28/2008 9:59:36 AM

as the tittle does not specify in what you realy mean bassing it on a mix of economic, military, capability on sustainability, resources, population and education on that population. Countries like Isriel and South Korea are over rated for with out forign support would colapes very quickly. Even China and India gaining ground very fast are still reliant on western money to buy the goods of wich they vastley produce for export. Sleeper countries with week armies but massive economies and recourses would convert very quickly in a hostal world, Germany, Japan, Canada and Australia. Saying the poop realy hit the fan and evry country was completly on its own the list would look like this. 1 USA 2 Russia 3 China 4 Germany 5 UK 6 France 7 Japan 8 Canada 9 Italy 10 Australia

 

If Russia, Sadia Arabia, and Canada didnt exist neither would 91% of the worlds oil supply.

The last sentence.
Yes it would, Somebody else would own it.

 
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fragger    @ Nasty German Idiot:-   3/30/2009 11:43:37 AM
@ Nasty German Idiot:-
 
u can shut ur A _ _ and sit in a corner.....worls knows what ur....heheheheh....don feel bad dude....try to get ur country some recognition in a good way....n u can learn a lot from IND....we are always ready to counsel u guys...
 
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