what the ferk is going on in here?  for ages we've been able to be free of these ferking idiots who come in waving their patriotic dicks in the air about who is better than who.  I expect to see it when school holidays are on, I don't really expect to see it amongst adults or those who profess to be adults.

I am so seriously over these pecker competitions.

 

I've yet to meet any professional in any armed service who carries on like this.  stepping beyond the banter that exists even within services does nothing to cement the credibility of those fostering and promoting this rubbish. 

 

GOP look up how many gongs ribbons and what not the usa gave out for the grenada operation and then come back and try to chide me about this with a straight face.  think the total was about 1.5 per person involved in the operation including sailors who never set foot on the island and personnel who never left their bases in the usa.

The Marine are trained and equiped for large amphibious attacks while the British are trained more for a land war. Each can do what the other can . But both are optimized for different jobs. I thihk the qualiy is the same for different jobs.

OIF isn't Grenada. Bottom line. The Marines in Fallujah earned every medal they got, anyone who disagrees is uneducated and do not know the facts.

i didn't say anything about the marines in fallujah gop.  what i said was that the usa distributes medals much more freely than any of the commonwealth countries does.  please go check and see for yourself how many of those things the us hands out every year per soldier and compare it to any of the white commonwealth countries before you get cranked up about it.
if you want to contrast the americans vs the brits one of the biggest advantages the brits have is their percentage of career military is higher which means their average soldier is more experienced than his us counterpart especially in the enlisted ranks.  the usa devotes an awful lot of money training new men to the minimum standards every year because of that.  the brits also get to cross train more than americans do because on the average they are in longer and have the time to do so.

american advantages would include sheer weight of numbers, the most sophisticated logistics system in the world and generally the shiniest toy box known to man.  the us has a rather unique position at the moment where they can heavily outnumber any opponent who can match or exceed their quality or badly outquality anyone who can match their numbers.

an enviable state of affairs i have to admit.

 

I don't know, if given her choice I think Sadie would have much prefered an extra biscuit or two instead of another dumb old hunk of medal around her neck. So was Sadie's VC unnecessary, or was she sitting and being a good girl above and beyond the call of duty?  Talk about Hollywooding it up!

 

As to Grenada, its a very bad axample.  The stupid operation hapened so suddenly and people were being given orders to be here and there on very short notice and I think at that point it had been something like 11 years since anyone outside the Marine Corps (Indo China Evacuation (75), Cambodia (~76), Lebanon (~83) - in which the USMC didn't go hog wild in giveing out medals) had been involved with any combat operations whatsoever.

 

I don't know if you adjust your number of issued medals to population density (i.e.  there are many more Americans in uniform in the last 70 years participating in more wars in which we had a bigger slice of action than British or common wealth).

 

If we're talking Victoria Cross versus Medal of Honor given out then more than half the Medals of Honor given out date from the Civil War at which time the Medal of Honor was the only American Medal for valor.

 

 

OK, well then I was off base. I apologize.

 

I am not sure if the British are that much more superiour to the US troops. I just haven't seen any facts that point to that at all.

 

calling the doggy medal a VC is insulting to the significant chunk of the world where that is the premiere award for bravery a person can get. 

i've little doubt you are correct in the dog's preference for a reward though.

 

 

gop the differences are more pronounced as the unit sizes decrease i'm told as each individual's skills matter more.  things like more people in the platoon who can call down arty fire or operate someone elses kit can be real lifesavers and the commonwealth guys have more time to crosstrain that way than americans usually do. 

 

recruiting based on seeing some of the world at taxpayers' expense is imho a very wrong way to get recruits and i hate to think what it costs the military in the states to keep training new guys to replace the tourists.  i don't know if you have ever seen some of the latest batch of canadian armed forces recruiting ads but they almost look like they are designed to repel potential recruits.  very grey and not at glamorous at all they show military personnel doing the kinds of things they do all day long in the truly fun parts of the world.

It appears from the article it's your guys (or should I say  dogs) legitimate medal, not ours.  So any insult is self inflicted, not mine. 

I agree thou you guys should probably change the name at the very least.  Call it the Legion of Loyalty for Canines.  Then you can put them in the House of Lords and then they can wail with the rest and best of them.