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Subject: Best Infantry : The Viet Cong?
GreyJackal    10/29/2006 8:59:06 AM
I saw this documentary on the History channel where they said during hard times in the Vietnam War, Viet cong were able to march upto 30 miles a day on one meal(usually a bowl of rice). They also were known to be very effective in mannually clearing out roads through jungles, dig lots of underground tunnels many over 50 miles long. They also pulled heavy artillery up difficult mountains mannually. It seems that these guys were very dedicated, obedient and durable infantry. Could they be the best infantry ever?
 
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GOP       11/7/2006 11:13:40 AM
I should also add that my opinion on this subject shouldn't be highly regarded. I am biased (as I stated above), and I obviously have never worked with troops from any nation, so all I have to go on is news reports and this site.
 
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Yimmy       11/7/2006 12:59:18 PM
Everyone is biased.
 
 
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Ehran       11/7/2006 1:36:42 PM

Everyone is biased.

 


yeah but how many of us will admit ;)
 
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kensohaski       11/7/2006 2:04:47 PM



DarthAmerica- The modern US Army Infantry Soldier or US Marine is without question the best trained, best equipped, best supported, most educated,  most experienced, most dedicated, most motivated and most effective infantry force the world has ever known PERIOD. There isnt a single force in the history of war that the Modern US Infantryman could not defeat on a battlefield.


After reading some of your other posts, its safe to say you are the most ridiculous person I've ever come accross on any military forum anywhere.



You really have not been around here a lot now have you?
 
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ambush       11/7/2006 2:46:07 PM
How about the Gurkahs? 
 
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GOP       11/7/2006 4:38:26 PM

How about the Gurkahs? 


I don't think they are very good at most tasks, outside of Jungle/Mountainous enviroments.
 
The best infantry is probably either the Army Rangers, Royal Marines, or the FFL...but they aren't regular units. Airborne units and Marine units are filled with top quality guys, and each unit has their share of low quality and top quality infantrymen. The guys in these more specialized units have proven they are motivated, dedicated, tough, professional, and qualified. Alot of guys in regular units are only concerned with getting paid, laid, and getting out after 3-4 years, so quality is going to vary among regular units in all country's militaries..

 
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Yimmy       11/7/2006 5:19:21 PM
The Royal Marines are a regular unit.
 
 
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GOP       11/7/2006 5:23:16 PM

The Royal Marines are a regular unit.

 



So is the USMC, but selection is tougher and standards are a good bit higher.
 
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olive greens       11/7/2006 6:09:52 PM




How about the Gurkahs? 




I don't think they are very good at most tasks, outside of Jungle/Mountainous enviroments.

 

The best infantry is probably either the Army Rangers, Royal Marines, or the FFL...but they aren't regular units. Airborne units and Marine units are filled with top quality guys, and each unit has their share of low quality and top quality infantrymen. The guys in these more specialized units have proven they are motivated, dedicated, tough, professional, and qualified. Alot of guys in regular units are only concerned with getting paid, laid, and getting out after 3-4 years, so quality is going to vary among regular units in all country's militaries..




Gurkhas won their "rifle greens" in Battle of Delhi, defending Hindu Rao's House with the Rifles Regiment. Before that they wore the standard Red Coats, and Indian Rifle Regiments (like Rajputana Rifles) wore "rifle black". Quite funny to hear you say that they are only good at jungles/mountains, when their very distinct formation was in recognition of their urban-combat service.

Since then the Gurkhas have been deployed as frequently in Indian cantonments, Hong Kong and Singapore as they have been in jungles/mountains. Their modern amphibious operations include Bangladesh Liberation War and Falklands War. Their battle honours includes places quite distinctly not jungles/mountains: France, Belgium, North Africa and Iraq.

While I wouldn't say they are the best (not knowing most of the forces out there), I will say its misleading to label Gurkhas as "only good at XXX".
 
 
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gf0012-aust       11/7/2006 6:35:29 PM



Gurkhas won their "rifle greens" in Battle of Delhi, defending Hindu Rao's House with the Rifles Regiment. Before that they wore the standard Red Coats, and Indian Rifle Regiments (like Rajputana Rifles) wore "rifle black". Quite funny to hear you say that they are only good at jungles/mountains, when their very distinct formation was in recognition of their urban-combat service.

Since then the Gurkhas have been deployed as frequently in Indian cantonments, Hong Kong and Singapore as they have been in jungles/mountains. Their modern amphibious operations include Bangladesh Liberation War and Falklands War. Their battle honours includes places quite distinctly not jungles/mountains: France, Belgium, North Africa and Iraq.

While I wouldn't say they are the best (not knowing most of the forces out there), I will say its misleading to label Gurkhas as "only good at XXX".
 
actually, its almost downright insulting. btw, they were also in East Timor in 99 and caused a considerable change in attitude from the "idiot" element when they were deployed.  Their reputation was and is fearsome.
 
The Sultan of Brunei also has a Ghurka contingent.


 
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