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Subject: USA or Israel will bomb Iran's Nukes
SYSOP    1/26/2007 6:03:49 PM
USA or Israel will bomb Iran's Nukes
USA, Israeli of both will bomb Iran's nuclear production and development facilities.
 
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Herc the Merc    Unlikely   1/27/2007 10:01:07 PM
www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C01%5C28%5Cstory_28-1-2007_pg3_1
India Pak and Iran just signed a deal on the gas pipeline, plus Israel lost the last war in Lebanon and considering Shia influence in Iraq though the reasons exist to terminate Irans nukes practicality will snag such forward attempts by US Israel however scary a small Iranian nuke program maybe.
 


 
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Herc the Merc    Well looks like Iran may create a valid target   2/4/2007 12:39:30 AM
I expect a declaration by Ahmednijabad that 3000 centrifuges have been installed at Nantaz on Jan 28, revolution anniversary I think.
 
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Herc the Merc    Correction-next sunday the 28th anniversary   2/4/2007 12:42:13 AM
 
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Commissar       3/8/2007 11:43:08 AM
Israel didn't lose anything. In fact, I think it's time that they did something more than fire back at those annoying prats from Hamas.
 
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Herc the Merc    Commisar   3/11/2007 6:24:24 PM

Israel didn't lose anything. In fact, I think it's time that they did something more than fire back at those annoying prats from Hamas.


Israel LOST the war. Plain and simple. Unconfirmed reports say that the Bush admin was so alarmed they were concerned that the Iran assault was highly questionable if Israel could not even contain the Hezbullah. Hezbullah is back in force and re-armed. It has taught a lesson to Israel that even we cannot ignore. They can hit back. It directly affects our Iran strategy.
 
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gistycharlie    never again   3/27/2007 4:53:57 AM
I take Israel at its word. They said they would do this if no one else stopped Iran. Whether or not Israel lost in Lebanon, or American politics appear to preclude it's involvement, America will organize an attack or force such conditions as to make conflict impossible to avoid in order to keep Israel from doing so and starting WWIII (or something very nearly like it). Its life and death for Israel, there's no one there that doesn't see it thusly. "Never again..."
 
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ingnoway    O yeah   5/18/2007 9:07:45 PM

USA or Israel will bomb Iran's Nukes
USA, Israeli of both will bomb Iran's nuclear production and development facilities.
  I know in my inmost being, that, this is being planned out.

 
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ingnoway    lost   5/18/2007 9:10:18 PM



Israel didn't lose anything. In fact, I think it's time that they did something more than fire back at those annoying prats from Hamas.



Israel LOST the war. Plain and simple. Unconfirmed reports say that the Bush admin was so alarmed they were concerned that the Iran assault was highly questionable if Israel could not even contain the Hezbullah. Hezbullah is back in force and re-armed. It has taught a lesson to Israel that even we cannot ignore. They can hit back. It directly affects our Iran strategy.

The only thing yisrael lost, was some terrorists!To sheol they went!
 
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tamak    Israel   1/1/2008 11:36:34 AM
I don't see the evidence, that, Israel lost the war! Not even, Israel could admit losing after their unbiased studies etc.
 
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WarNerd       1/1/2008 12:51:10 PM

Israel didn't lose anything. In fact, I think it's time that they did something more than fire back at those annoying prats from Hamas.

Israel lost the battle on points.  But the war goes on.
 
Hezbollah fought, retreated, and survived, and has managed to spin it into a propaganda victory.  But they had to use up a lot of their tricks to do it, and many of those tricks were only good for one battle.  They also lost control of much of southern Lebanon, embarrassed the UN peacekeepers into a higher state of effectiveness, and have made their Syrian and Iranian connections fairly obvious.
 
Israel lost in Lebanon, but they could afford it, so this may be a good thing for them in the long run.  Israel is no longer over confident, and now knows Hezbollah's bag of tricks.  The rule is that you learn 10x as much from a defeat as a victory.
 
First the new Israeli government made the classic mistake of believing airforce self-propaganda that it could go it alone.  Then when Plan 'A' failed had to scramble to implement a ground based invasion for Plan 'B' that fed their troops into a meatgrinder in drib's and drab's.  These mistakes will not be repeated (at least for the next couple of battles).
 
Next time around it will be VERY different.
 
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Dilum    A similar take   8/9/2008 10:49:37 PM
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gistycharlie    never again   3/27/2007 4:53:57 AM
I take Israel at its word. They said they would do this if no one else stopped Iran. Whether or not Israel lost in Lebanon, or American politics appear to preclude it's involvement, America will organize an attack or force such conditions as to make conflict impossible to avoid in order to keep Israel from doing so and starting WWIII (or something very nearly like it). Its life and death for Israel, there's no one there that doesn't see it thusly. "Never again..."
 
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My take on this matter is that the U.S. is so over-committed in Iraq; they would never strike Iran's nuclear facilities for fear of it spiraling out of their control. Mind you, they may consider themselves to be in a different position if Iran went ahead and conducted a nuclear test. I believe however, that Iran's potential to conduct such a test is a long way off... regardless of whether the U.S. decides to strut its stuff by beating-up the rhetoric. Anyone interested in world events, undoubtedly remembers the matter of W.M.D.'s in Iraq. Iran of course also likes to engage itself in the same game of brinksmanship by beating its own drum. The reality so often lies somewhere between the two extremes.

The likelihood of Israel taking unilateral action is another matter again. Israel in my opinion tends to be overly sensitive, and although I can understand that sensitivity, they can very quickly become trigger-happy.

For every action taken, there is a consequence.  In the case of Israel and Iran, the quality of life and security within the general populous of Israel, coupled with reliable intelligence, must always guide Israel when it comes to considering any military solution... as trumped-up fear can rapidly overtake reality.

I do not believe the life /slash/ death of Israel is in question here, as ever since its acceptance of the U.N.?s ?Charter of Obligations? in 1948, Israel will always have majority World support and will always be. Israel will continue to have its place on the map of the world? there will always be however, a good argument for moderation.

 
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