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Subject: Where Your Average Islamic Terrorist Comes From
James Dunnigan    11/13/2004 10:52:25 PM

The evidence is piling up that Islamic radicals are motivated more by sermons and television news, than anything else. As a result, there is not one al Qaeda, but hundreds of informal groups, brought together by the shared belief that Arabs in particular, and Moslems in general, have gotten a raw deal from the infidels (non-Moslems), and it?s Gods will for the faithful to hurt the infidels as much as possible. Rather simplistic, but that just makes it easier to understand. However, the leaders, and followers, in these many small terrorist groups vary enormously in their backgrounds. Most of the leaders are college graduates, compared to five percent of the adults being college grads in most Moslem nations. These many leaders tend to attract a lot of less well educated followers. In fact, these guys are often illiterate, or recruited from prisons, urban slums or isolated rural populations. European countries have noted this, and now increasingly keep Moslem convicts separated from one another, to reduce terrorist recruitment possibilities.

The terrorist leadership, with a few exceptions (like the September 11, 2001 attacks), do not actually carry out suicide attacks. That?s what the ex-cons and illiterate guys are for. Fortunately, most of the terrorist cells get caught long before they can put together a workable plan. That?s because few of the graduates of the Afghanistan al Qaeda camps are still actively involved. Many of the Afghan grads apparently grew out of their terrorism phase, or simply decided that sort of thing was not for them. The ?Afghanis? are the ones who received training in OPSEC (Operational Security, how to keep terrorist activities being discovered by the police.) These are the ones who are not getting caught. The college grads without the OPSEC training are not stupid, in fact most are trained in science and engineering and have access to al Qaeda?s training documents (on CD or downloaded from the net.) But it?s one thing to read about how important it is to keep your mouth shut and avoid the police, and to have someone hammer it into you during classroom work. 

Most terrorist cells are formed from people who previously knew each other, often from among people they met at a mosque. Usually it?s a mosque with religious leaders who preach hatred of infidels and the need for good Moslems to fight back. Counter-terrorism agencies have learned to keep an eye on these mosques, and the result has been many arrests, and many more people put under surveillance. The job is made easier by the habit of the terrorist wannabes to live together and act suspiciously like terrorists or criminals. In the United States, over 10,000 American Moslems were interviewed by the FBI in 2004, and many more by state and local counter-terrorism officials. These interviews uncover who is eager to be a terrorist, and who the suspects hang out with. That there have been no terrorist attacks in the United States since 2001 is no accident. 

Even in Saudi Arabia, one of the most intensely Islamic nations in the world, terrorists can?t help spending too much time with each other, often in the same neighborhoods or even mosques. The Saudi police have killed one leader of al Qaeda, in Saudi Arabia, after another in the past year. As a consequence, the new leaders get younger, less experienced, and easier to catch. It's reached the point where Saudi public opinion is beginning to be sympathetic of the terrorists once more. This, however, will quickly change once more once another terrorist attack occurs. 

Another problem the new terrorists cells have are increased border controls brought about by fear of terrorists. Not just in the United States, but world wide. While the larger number of checks is mostly catching common criminals and illegal immigrants, it is noting the movements of suspected terrorists, and disrupting the movements of these men. 

But with all this, there is still the very real problem of terrorism being very popular among young Islamic men. In Thailand, increased violence in the Moslem south has created a growing number of terrorist incidents. Most of these are obviously improvised acts, but there is the fear that more carefully planned, and deadlier acts might be in the works. This can be seen in the Spanish train bombings earlier this year, and the September massacre in Beslan, Russia. Indeed, investigators have discovered that the Beslan operation involved as many as 65 people directly. That included 49 who were killed in or near Beslan, three who were captured and 13 who escaped. The Chechens, however, have long specialized in large, elaborate operations involving dozens of terrorists. It?s something of a tradition in the Chechen community, these large operations, with plenty of people brought up knowing how to cooperate in covert operations in areas where they speak the language and have contacts (usually other Chechens). That?s unique, in most other cultures, small groups of inexperienced men improvise, and usually get caught. 

The problem is that, some of these terror cells are going to succeed. The number of Islamic terror groups that have managed to carry out attacks has been small, considering that millions of young Moslems have eagerly sought to do something destructive. Most of the violence is concentrated in places like Israel, Chechnya, Pakistan, Kashmir and Iraq. In all those cases, there are other causes of the violence that have nothing to do with Islam. International terrorism, and terrorists, are another matter. This world wide violence has largely been a flop. But as terrorists have long pointed out, you only have to get lucky once to have an enormous impact (in the media, at least).
 
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maryatexitzero    RE:Where Your Average Islamic Terrorist Comes From   11/15/2004 8:47:23 AM
It?s an interesting article, but it fails to mention the millions of terrorists who are trained through the Saudi-funded, well-organized system of Madrassas. From the article "Pakistan?s Jihad Factories:" link "In a few moments chatting with them, I quickly learned that their major topic of study was jihad, or holy war. The nearly 2,000 students expect to fight infidels in Chechnya, Afghanistan, Palestine, or Indian Kashmir once they complete their studies at the madrasah, located inside the walls of the old city of Lahore." "This school and others like it have prospered in recent years, in part because of the failure of the state-run educational system. In Pakistan, the illiteracy rate among adults is estimated at 70 percent. About 1.75 million students are enrolled in the schools, though it is not clear how many of the academies are devoted to preparing their students for jihad. Some may focus only on religious studies. It is certain, however, that each time the repressive Islamic Taliban regime in Afghanistan needs to mount a spring offensive against its rebel opponents, tens of thousands of students from Pakistani madrasahs pour over the border in trucks to join the jihad, according to reports in the Jane's defense publications. Thus, the system of madrasahs has become a hatchery for tens of thousands of Islamic militants who have spread conflict around the world. Incidents in the Philippines, Indonesia, Russia, Central Asia, and at New York's World Trade Center have all been linked to graduates of the madrasahs. Indeed, Pakistan is terrorism's fertile garden." ... Similar Saudi-funded ?schools? teach jihad in Malaysia, Thailand, and around the world. The justification for this Saudi funded jihad are based on their state religion, Wahhabism, and their version of Islamic (Shariah) laws From Metareligion: link "The Wahhabis' strict interpretation of the Sharia has sanctioned extreme laws and forms of punishment. According to Stephen Schwartz in the October 6, 2001 London Spectator , virtually all recent acts of terrorism have been enacted by Wahhabis. "Bin Laden is a Wahhabi. So are the suicide bombers in Israel. So are his Egyptian allies, who exulted as they stabbed foreign tourists to death at Luxor not many years ago, bathing in blood up to their elbows and emitting blasphemous cries of ecstasy. So are the Algerian Islamist terrorists, whose contribution to the purification of the world consisted of murdering people for such sins as running a movie projector or reading secular newspapers. So are the Taliban style guerrillas in Kashmir who murder Hindus." ... According to this article, "Not all Muslims are suicide bombers, but all Muslim suicide bombers are Wahhabis." Islamic radicals are not just motivated by television news and sermons. They are financed and trained by Islamist, Shariah-based states like Iran and Saudi Arabia. They are all united by the need to destroy any form of government that is not based on conservative, Wahhbi-based Shariah law. Their mass murdering jihad is justified by these same Shariah laws. They are the paramilitary branch of an organized, state-sponsored imperialist organization that rivals the Thousand year Reich in its ability to inspire violence and hate, and they?re not going to stop until we make them stop. If you don?t believe me, ask the Thais. Ask the Hindus. Ask the Dutch.
 
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jfb1138    RE:Where Your Average Islamic Terrorist Comes From   11/15/2004 11:21:00 AM
I'd be interested in seeing some citation that the terrorists are once again becoming heros in Saudi Arabia. No Saudis I know report that, even from the streets. I'm sorry, too, that the previous poster seems to continually confuse Wahhabis with Deobandis, nor recognize that "Wahhabi", when used by non-Arabs, is a loose term, not to be trusted to mean those schooled in the religious tradition of Abdul-Wahhab. As The New Yorker points out, this sloppiness in identification has been going on for some time: "In 1992, the Uzbek government had begun to use the term "Wahhabi" for anyone who was perceived to be an adherent of radical Islam or who held anti-government sentiments as part of his Islamic beliefs. Five years later, the government was labelling as Wahhabis even ordinary Muslims who practiced Islam in unofficial mosques or who engaged in private prayer or study. Any Muslim who associated with prayer leaders or taught children how to read the Koran was called a Wahhabi." link
 
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maryatexitzero    RE:Where Your Average Islamic Terrorist Comes From   11/15/2004 12:05:00 PM
Terrorists are 'heroes' to the Saudi government, which offers them financing and support: Via AP WASHINGTON (AP) -- Iraq's new security forces are heavily infiltrated by insurgents, and the guerrilla groups have access to almost unlimited money to pay for deadly attacks, according to a U.S. defense official who provided new details on the evolution of the rebels. A significant part of the insurgents' money is coming from sympathizers in Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi government is neglecting the problem, said the official, who was authorized by the Pentagon to speak on the issue this week, but only on condition of anonymity. Money is flowing into Iraq through Syria, the official said. In both cases, it comes from a diffuse network of supporters, funneled through charities, tribal relations and businesses -- not necessarily the same funding networks that transfer money to al-Qaida from Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries, but following a similar model, the official said." ... According to the LA Times, Saudi state-supported 'religious scholars' supported the insurgents. link .. According to the Independent, "Bin Laden secured from a Saudi sheik a rather long treatise on the possibility of using nuclear weapons against the Americans," Scheuer said. The fatwa "found that he was perfectly within his rights to use them. Muslims argue that the United States is responsible for millions of dead Muslims around the world, so reciprocity would mean you could kill millions of Americans," Scheuer said. - Sapa-AFP link According to Human Rights Watch, the Saudi government gave substantial assistance to the Deobandi Taliban through Pakistan: link "Saudi assistance to the Taliban has at times extended beyond the strictly financial to encompass military and organizational assistance. Western journalists saw white-painted C-130 Hercules transport aircraft which they identified as Saudi Arabian at Qandahar airport in 1996 delivering artillery and small-arms ammunition to Taliban soldiers.139 The Taliban security service, the Ministry of Enforcement of Virtue and Suppression of Vice, bears the same name as its sister service in Saudi Arabia and has been funded directly by Saudi Arabia; this relatively generous funding-as compared to the general poverty of other government organs in the Taliban administration-enabled it to become the most powerful agency within the Islamic Emirate" The Saudis broke off relations with the Taliban after 9/11: link "A Saudi Arabian air force general has said privately that the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States were the result of America "reaping what it sows," according to a U.S. intelligence official. The comment shows how shallow Saudi Arabian military and government support is for the coming U.S. military attacks on Afghanistan. Riyadh's lukewarm backing also is evident in limitations it has placed on military operations from the desert kingdom, where the United States has been sending a large number of warplanes for coming attacks. The Saudi government did break relations with the Taliban government this week in a show of support for the United States" ... Although the Deobandi Taliban were very similar to Saudi Wahhabis, they did allow the practice of other religions within their borders. The Saudi Wahhabis do not.
 
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