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Weapons: Second Son Of Ma Deuce Stumbles
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October 9, 2008: Earlier this year, the U.S. Department of Defense gave General Dynamics $9 million to try and develop a lightweight .50 caliber (12.7mm) machine-gun (to be known as LW50 for the moment) that works. An earlier attempt (the XM312) by General Dynamics did not work out so well. Actually, there are several other competitors for this project, and several failed attempts in the last few decades. The army wants a weapon that weighs about half as much as the current weapon (the 128 pound M-2), has fewer parts, less recoil and is easier to maintain. Unfortunately, none of the proposed designs has solved the biggest problem with earlier attempts; low rate of fire (usually about half the M2s 500 rounds a minute).

The first attempt at creating a replacement for the current M2 .50 caliber (12.7mm) machine-gun did not turn out too well. Three years ago, field testing of the XM-312, the proposed replacement for the eighty year old, .50 caliber (12.7mm) M-2 machine-gun, began, in the United States and overseas. Then, nothing. That's because the test results were not encouraging, the biggest shortcoming being the low rate of fire (about 260 rounds per minute). This is about half the rate of the M2, and was believed adequate for the 25mm smart shells the XM312 was originally designed for (as the XM307). But for 12.7mm bullets, it didn't impress the troops. There were some reliability problems, which could be fixed. The rate-of-fire issue, however, has proved to be more difficult. Meanwhile, a new upgrade for the M2 has been fielded, and Ma Deuce still rules the battlefield. The new M2E2 has a quick change barrel, flash hider and lot of small improvements. It is much in demand.

The M-2, nicknamed "Ma Deuce" by the troops, has been around so long because it was very good at what it does. Accurate, reliable, rugged and easy to use, many of the M-2s currently in use are decades old, and finally wearing out. The army doesn't want to build new ones, and wasn't sure it could do without the venerable, and very useful, M2. So it ended up going ahead with the plan to build a new .50 caliber machine-gun (the XM312). Actually, this Ma Deuce replacement is basically the XM307, but without the ability to fire 25mm rounds. The XM312 weighs 36 pounds (compared to 50 for the M-2), even with the addition of the electronic fire control stuff from the XM307. 

The LW50 will ignore the 25mm business, and probably borrow a lot of ideas from superior 12.7mm designs developed in other nations. That's because the LW50 won't be the first lightweight rival for the Ma Deuce replacement market. Buying a superior foreign replacement is difficult politically (although it is done), and there is also the feeling that the superior foreign weapons aren't as superior as they could be.

Actually, there have been many attempts to design a "new and improved" M2, and all have failed, to one degree or another, in one department or another. The basic problem is that the M2 is sturdy, reliable and gets the job done to the satisfaction of the users. The LW50 is apparently going to try and get around this by designing a better recoil system, and use modern electronic sights so that gunners can get more out of fewer bullets. Most combat veterans prefer the current rate of fire (7-8 bullets per second) to the slower (4 per second) one of the LW50. That attitude may change, as troops get to use the LW50 in combat. They may appreciate the ability to get more out of the same ammo supply, and deliver more accurate single shots and short bursts.

What the army is hoping to do with LW50 is not get an M2 replacement, but a "good enough" lightweight 12.7mm machine-gun, for those situations where such a weapon is needed. SOCOM (Special Operations Command), for example, has some lightweight vehicles in the works, that are too light to carry an M2, but could handle a lighter 12.7mm weapon. The army wants to have such a lightweight machine-gun for the troops in about three years. Meanwhile, the army has ordered 40,000 new M2s.

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YelliChink       10/9/2008 1:17:05 PM
Basically US Army is buying M2 QCB from Fabrique Nationale. The basically design of M2HB is so good, that there is still no other design to surpass it almost one century later. M2HB is selective fire weapon and electronic marksman system can be integrated into it as well. Anyway, JMB is still the genius of gun design of all time.
 
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newjarheadean    Heavy metal vs sily cons   10/9/2008 3:40:17 PM
AHOY, the M2 dose not have the most important part of any system of today, the computer chip. Everything has to have a computer chip. The generals most know how many rounds have been fired by the weapons in fighting hole number X. They most be able to fly along viewing from the tip cam of some 20mm round reconnoitering the trajectory for death ray fields. G-day!


 
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WarNerd    Some questions:   10/10/2008 9:16:07 PM
While it is obvious that the regular troops prefer the higher rate of the old 'Ma Deuce" to the greater accuracy of the XM312, how do the light infantry types who have to carry all their weapons like the special forces and mountain troops feel about it?
 
Also, would there be any advantage if the XM312 was used to replace some of the 7.62mm support weapons instead of as a .50cal replacement?
 
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big79       10/12/2008 4:52:36 PM
i don't think troops are fielding the m2 as a infantry protable system now days, I think that they are all vehicle mounted. the use of the m2 as a heavy machinegun like in ww2 was replaced with the m60/m240 since the 30 browning was replaced with the m249. the big problem for infantry carrying m2 is not the weapon it self but carrying enough ammo to make it effective.
 
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