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January 27, 2007: The U.S. Department of Defense has once more backed off from deploying its microwave ADS (Active Defense system). Originally set for deployment two years ago, the plan now is to continue testing the device, and put into service in 2010, or later, or never. The problem is that non-lethal weapons are not absolutely non-lethal, they are less lethal. The Department of Defense is afraid of the bad press they would get if the ADS were used, whether people died or not. 

The ADS is a non-lethal weapon that looks like a radar dish. The ADS "radar dish" projects a "burn ray" that is about four feet in diameter. It is effective in fog, smoke and rain. When pointed at people and turned on, it creates a burning sensation on the skin of its victims, causing them to want to leave the area, or at least greatly distracts them. The microwave weapon has a range of about 500 meters. ADS is carried on a hummer or Stryker, along with a machine-gun and other non-lethal weapons. The proposed ROE (Rules of Engagement) for ADS are that anyone who keeps coming after getting hit with microwave is assumed to have evil intent, and will be killed. The microwave is believed to be particularly useful for terrorists who hide in crowds of women and children, using the human shields to get close enough to make an attack. This has been encountered in Somalia and Iraq.

Meanwhile, a new, smaller, version, called Silent Guardian, with a range of about 250 meters, has also been developed and offered for use defending vital targets (like nuclear power plants) against terrorists. The manufacturer is also pitching the Silent Guardian to the navy (for ship protection), the State Department (for embassy protection) and organizations like the border patrol, or anyone looking for a non-lethal way to quickly disperse crowds.

Deployment of ADS has been delayed for years because of concerns about how non-lethal it really is. ADS has been fired, in tests, over 2,500 times. Many of these firings were against human volunteers, and the device performed as predicted, without any permanent damage. But generations of exposure to lurid science fiction descriptions of "death rays" has made the defense bureaucrats anxious over the negative public relations potential if something like ADS was actually used. From a publicity perspective, using more lethal "non-lethal-weapons" is preferable to deploying something safer, but that could be described, however incorrectly, as a "death ray."


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DarthAmerica       1/27/2007 5:06:26 AM
It's pure lunacy that we aren't using this system yet. It would save countless lives.



DA

 
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StudentofConflict       1/27/2007 5:43:47 AM
or it could cost countless lives when word gets round that the evil western infidels are using death rays to oppress the faithful...you and I know its better than a bullet, but refracted through the distorted mirror of the media, it'd be made out to be an inhumane war crime...we can't hope for a sense of proportion when practicality runs up against ideology, unfortunately...
 
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Herald1234    Ignoring the obvious.   1/27/2007 10:26:44 AM
Somebody has figured out to make an adjustable continuous focus magnetron pumped radio transmitter. Think about that.

Since this is microwave oven technology, on steroids,  suppose a JJ gets a hold of a working model and twiddles with the radio frequency he wants to put out?

Skin burn is only possible because somebody in a US lab fine tuned that magnetron to put out radio waves that are stopped five millimeters into the human body and that is where the work deposited by the radio beam manifests itself as HEAT.

Suppose that the JJ engineer who doesn't care about Human life gets hold of the ADS magnetron and twiddles with the frequency of the radio beam it outputs, so that it will deposit work ten to twenty centimeters inside the Human body? That is what you do when you microwave your cold chicken.

Now do you begin to understand?

Herald



 
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DarthAmerica       1/27/2007 11:35:56 AM

Somebody has figured out to make an adjustable continuous focus magnetron pumped radio transmitter. Think about that.

Since this is microwave oven technology, on steroids,  suppose a JJ gets a hold of a working model and twiddles with the radio frequency he wants to put out?

Skin burn is only possible because somebody in a US lab fine tuned that magnetron to put out radio waves that are stopped five millimeters into the human body and that is where the work deposited by the radio beam manifests itself as HEAT.

Suppose that the JJ engineer who doesn't care about Human life gets hold of the ADS magnetron and twiddles with the frequency of the radio beam it outputs, so that it will deposit work ten to twenty centimeters inside the Human body? That is what you do when you microwave your cold chicken.

Now do you begin to understand?

Herald

All JJ has to do is adjust the frequency down to 1-5Ghz and AKmed the protester pumping his fist in the crowd is toasty. But it still something we need. The UCMJ can handle JJ.


DA
 
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Herald1234    ???????????????   1/27/2007 11:50:55 AM
JJ AKA as Johnny Jihadi is the guy about whom I'm writing. The ADS once prototyped isn't hard to reverse engineer. Figuring it out in the first place was the hard part. Suppose the Iranians get one. This magnetron and its reflector isn't that hard to figure out if you have the hardware in the lab to copy..

Our troops are already overburdened as it is. Now we have to put them in aluminum fibermesh threaded battledress to defeat radio waves?

Herald
 
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VelocityVector       1/27/2007 1:00:40 PM

Many a bird has got microwaved mid-flight by junior engineers tweaking aircraft systems in SoCal, a rather benign playground.  “Or so they say.”  If JJ tries this with our troops he’ll be smoked by Javelin or Hellfire in short order.  I would actually love to see JJ plow his top technical talent and other resources into death ray projects, as this will diminish both at little cost to us.  So troopers, leave your tinfoil hats back home or, better yet, donate them to the likes of Kucinich, who probably goes through quite a lot of tinfoil hats.  .02

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Herald1234    More ?????????????   1/27/2007 4:43:39 PM

Many a bird has got microwaved mid-flight by junior
engineers tweaking aircraft systems in SoCal, a rather benign playground.  “Or so they say.”  If JJ tries this with our troops he’ll be
smoked by Javelin or Hellfire in short order. 
I would actually love to see JJ plow his top technical talent and other
resources into death ray projects, as this will diminish both at little cost to
us.  So troopers, leave your tinfoil hats
back home or, better yet, donate them to the likes of Kucinich, who probably
goes through quite a lot of tinfoil hats.  .02


v^2


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New Laser Technologies for Infantry Warfare, Counterinsurgency Ops, and LE Apps
Posted on Monday, January 17 @ 15:41:56 PST by davidc

 


Future infantry/soldier technologyby David Crane
david@defensereview.com

In the future, our infantry forces might employ non-lethal "laser dazzlers" to blind and disorient enemy soldiers, insurgents, and terrorists in order to capture them alive and preclude the need to kill them, so we can interrogate them. Or, the high-tech weapons can be used as a precursor to firing lethal munitions. The development of these "stun" lasers is of course in congruence with the development of highly lethal weapons-grade lasers that can be used on everything from men to missiles (provided anti-personnel use complies with Hague). Either way, things aren't really looking too good for the enemy.

The real breakthrough allowing infantry warfare application of these non-lethal laser weapons systems is the development of a system that can overcome anti-laser goggles and contact lenses, which are able to filter out laser light, and thus counter the laser's blinding and/or disorienting effect. Apparently, scientists at the University of New Hampshire (UNH) have been working on an adaptive l

 
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Mark in Texas       1/28/2007 12:33:15 PM
Here's my modest proposal for deploying this system that has already been developed but which we are afraid to use because of concerns about bad PR.

Form a joint venture with a French company.  Sell a few of these things to the French Police for $19.95.  Let the Gendarmes microwave some of the youths of unknown ethnicity who are torching cars.

Once they have been used by the caring, culturally sensitive and stylish French, it will be OK for us to use them too.

 
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