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Desperately Seeking SAM

September 14, 2009: Leftist terrorists in Colombia have been desperately trying to buy shoulder fired surface-to-air missiles (SAMs). The most likely purchase would Russian SA-7s, which can be had for less than $20,000 each on the black market. The Colombian leftists (the FARC) have been getting chewed up by the army and police during the last five years because the government has a force of about a hundred aircraft (helicopters, prop-driven attack craft, jet fighter-bombers, electronic warfare and reconnaissance). The helicopters are easy targets for older SAMs like the SA-7. More advanced missiles, like the SA-14 or 18, cost upwards of $100,000 dollars each, but are even more effective against helicopters, and have a chance against fast moving jets (while coming in low to attack.)

The problem is, the black market for arms has been heavily infiltrated by American agents, especially since 911. For this reason, the arms merchants are unwilling to move SA-7 type weapons to terrorists. The reason is simple. If the missiles are used successfully, Americans will likely trace the weapon back to the source, and keep coming. Gunrunners are basically out to make money, not play hardball with U.S. counter-terrorism agencies. Nations that manufacture these low budget SAMs (Russia, China) do not want a spat with the U.S. over this, and warn their customers that there will be repercussions if the missiles fall into the wrong hands, and the Americans come looking for suppliers.

But there are sources for these missiles. At least according to a sting run by American agents in Honduras recently. Hearing that there was a Syrian in the area offering to supply weapons, the Americans, playing the role (convincingly, apparently) of FARC weapons buyers, met with the Syrian, and were told that Hezbollah (the Lebanese terror group sponsored by Iran) had a weapons warehouse in Mexico, from which FARC could buy assault rifles, grenades, explosives, ammo and 17 SA-7s. Iran manufactures the Misagh series of SAMs, based on Chinese models, and one of them is basically a SA-7 clone. Iran supplies Hezbollah. The Syrian arms salesman was arrested in Honduras and extradited to the United States, but it's unclear if he has revealed, or even knew, the location of the Hezbollah warehouse in Mexico.

The Syrian wanted to trade a shipping container full of weapons for a ton of cocaine. FARC would have needed more ten times as many SAMs as the Syrian was offering, to change their battlefield fortunes in Colombia. But if the Syrian was telling the truth, 17 SAMs would have been a start.

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trenchsol       9/14/2009 11:02:37 AM
So, "good neighbor" Chavez, is not willing to donate few SAMs to his friends ? Does it mean that he got cautious after the documents were leaked in Ecuador ? 
 
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WarNerd       9/14/2009 2:05:49 PM

So, "good neighbor" Chavez, is not willing to donate few SAMs to his friends ? Does it mean that he got cautious after the documents were leaked in Ecuador ?


More likely it was the uproar when a pair of Carl-Gustav recoilless rifles captured from FARC were traced back to him. 
 
Russia and China are probably the only major arms producing countries left that will openly deal with him, and they have other interests in the area as well that they do not want jeopardized.  He has probably been told that if any captured SAM's can be traced back to him, then all undelivered contracts will be canceled (or at least put on hold).  A similar situation has happened to Iran, who he is on very good terms with, so he knows what to expect, and has not convinced himself it would not unsettle things too much.
 
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trenchsol       9/14/2009 9:35:57 PM
So, those Carl Gustafs were confirmed to come from Venezuela ? I've read something about it when it started. Do you think that China would care if SAMs were traced back to Chavez, and then to them ?  They would sell to anyone except Dalai Lama, but he is a sworn pacifist, so he wouldn't buy  anyway.....
 
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WarNerd       9/15/2009 4:40:34 AM
It was confirmed, but you have it backwards.
 
The Columbian government sent the serial numbers of the launchers back to the manufacturer and they confirmed that the weapons were part of an order delivered to Venezuela.  It probably would have ended there if Chavez had promised an investigation and prosecution, but instead he responded with an exceptionally vile round of bombast that managed to PO most of the governments in the EU.  That man is his own worst enemy.
 
Because of their potency as terrorist weapons, man portable SAM's are covered by a couple of special treaties, of which China and the USSR were signatories, that require custody these items to be tracked to facilitate identifying the points where they are diverted from government control, and that this information be provided to certain entities, like INTERPOL, on request.  This is why these weapons are so expensive and so hard to come by, every time one is captured it can be quickly tracked back and a strong case made against whoever might have sold it to the black market.
 
So if  Columbia captures a couple of SAM's that Venezuela purchased from China, they could be traced very easily.  What happens then is anyone's guess, but China will have to at least fake indignation and then Chavez respond.
 
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