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Special Operations: Rangers Reluctantly Ride
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August 21, 2009: The U.S. SOCOM (Special Operations Command) has been adding armor and anti-armor capabilities to its 75th Ranger Regiment. Although the three battalion of the regiment are trained as airmobile and parachute light infantry, they have their own modified (armored) hummers (GMV-R) for ground operations where the rangers need that kind of mobility. These hummers have been armed with Viper anti-tank missiles, which are also very useful when some precision long range fire power is needed, and army GPS guided shells or rockets, or air force smart bombs, are not available. One ranger company worth of Stryker wheeled armored vehicles (14 of them) has been assigned to the 75th Regiment, and these are being used in Afghanistan. Rangers have also used MRAPS. In general, rangers don't like to move around in armored vehicles, but will do so when it's necessary to get to the objective in one piece.

 

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yeter    Why reluctant?   8/21/2009 1:41:59 PM
Thats the best ground ride to have!So,they would rather die???
 
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Mountaintroll       8/21/2009 1:57:42 PM

Thats the best ground ride to have!So,they would rather die???

I think they would rather not be sent into situations where such things are needed.  Rangers can do those types of missions, but that's not what Ranger units were created for.
 
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jak267       8/22/2009 4:32:12 AM
Which is exactly what the Taliban want. Why try to fight someone who's a better soldier when you can just blow them up? Obama, Gates, and McChrystal are just creating the body count they need to justify declaring peace and then cutting and running.
 
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ambush       8/23/2009 4:19:03 PM

Thats the best ground ride to have!So,they would rather die???


  I am a retired Marine so I have no real mech experience other than some training at 29 Palms .  I was out before the Iraq thing but I did have an Army friend tell me that the saying was:

?They would rather have a sister who was a whore than be mechanized?. 

He said that most of the time was spent in the motor pool pulling PMs on vehicles and equipment that had not moved or been used from t he last time they performed a PM.  They faced training restrictions based on money budgeted for fuel etc.

 
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longrifle       8/25/2009 2:09:20 AM
I wonder if this is the best way.
 
It would seem that mobility would always be a good thing - but is mission creep a concern?  I don't see anything wrong with Hummers - the Ranger Battalions used gun jeeps long before Hummers - but Strykers and MRAPs?
 
We have mech units and we have Stryker units.  If SOCOM needs some more muscle perhaps it might be better to assign a light armored cavalry regiment with mech and Stryker capabilities to SOCOM instead of trying to add those capabilities to the Army's premier light infantry strike force?
 
 
 
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