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Special Operations: German Commandos Withdrawn From Afghanistan
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October 9, 2008: Germany is pulling its commandos out of Afghanistan. The KSK commandos have been there for most of the last seven years. Many Germans, especially leftist politicians and journalists, have not been happy with that. This has resulted in several unflattering, and largely inaccurate, articles about the KSK in the German media. There was also an investigation of several KSK men, accused of kicking an Afghan prisoner. While the KSK were allowed to fight, they also operated under some restrictions. They generally could not fire at the enemy unless first fired upon. This led to at least one senior Taliban leader getting away from the KSK. The fleeing Taliban honcho was not firing at the pursuing KSK, so the commandos could not take him down.

Germany sent 120 KSK commandos to Afghanistan in late 2001. They were not given their own area of operation, but worked with American special forces and commandos as needed. The KSK commandos are the first German troops to engage in combat since 1945 (not counting some communist East German military advisers who may have had to defend themselves in places like Africa. German peacekeepers in the 1990s Balkans have not had to fight.) KSK's achievement was celebrated in late 2001, when a supply of quality German beer was flown in for the troops.

The KSK were respected by their fellow special operations soldiers, and particularly liked because the Germans were sent beer rations (two cans a day per man). The KSK troops would often share the brew with their fellow commandos, which sometimes resulted in favors in the form of special equipment or intel data. Even with the restrictions, the KSK saw lots of action, but little of it was publicized, lest it generate more criticism back home.

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newjarheadean       10/9/2008 4:30:32 PM
AHOY don't look now but the Burkah meter is way up in Afghanistan. And the Afghans in Pakistan have been told to go home. There well soon be 50000 more hearts and mines to win over. G-day!
 
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theBird       10/9/2008 5:25:12 PM
Two beers per day?  The beer probably sucks but its still better than none!  I was under the impression that all modern armies were dry, but I guess not!
 
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trenchsol       10/10/2008 9:04:09 AM

Two beers per day?  The beer probably sucks but its still better than none!  I was under the impression that all modern armies were dry, but I guess not!


Germany has an incredible variety of beers, everyone can find something for their own taste. I don't know which one army gets. Those who love dark beers (also called "bitter" in UK) are probably disappointed.
 
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LB       10/10/2008 3:03:24 PM
The bitterness in beer is a reflection of the hops content.  A bitter beer is one with a lot of hops.  One style of beer is an extra special bitter.  The color of beer has nothing to with bitterness and in fact only reflects a small portion of the barley being malted.  Germany and the UK brew some of the best beer in the world.
 
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mough       10/11/2008 4:02:53 PM

Two beers per day?  The beer probably sucks but its still better than none!  I was under the impression that all modern armies were dry, but I guess not!


European militaries are "wet"....the French even have wine in their MRE's..
 
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trenchsol       10/12/2008 10:03:15 AM

The bitterness in beer is a reflection of the hops content.  A bitter beer is one with a lot of hops.  One style of beer is an extra special bitter.  The color of beer has nothing to with bitterness and in fact only reflects a small portion of the barley being malted.  Germany and the UK brew some of the best beer in the world.

The beer I used to drink in UK was not particularly bitter. If I wanted to order it I just have to say "a pint of bitter, please", and what I got was rather dark beer. I have no idea what label it was, did it have any "official" name or not, but it was good, damn good.

 
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Nasty German Idiot       10/12/2008 2:44:36 PM
The soldiers on foreign mission are allowed to enjoy 2 beers after duty when they are not on guard.  That is basically what a normal German is brought up with.  In Bavaria, its actually officially considered "basic ground food" and thus children may drink beer there, in all other Germany its 16 years when you may drink beer and sparkling wine.
 
Back to topic:  Although it seems the KSK is withdrawn (giving these soldiers and families a well needed rest, there are only 350 KSK now) the German Parliament has approved to moving 1000 additional Soldiers in on Oct. 3.  And the quick Reaction force North will be made stronger with this move.
 
PS: This was passed with the support of all German Parties besides the far left ... (but they also voted against WW1 ^^ )

 httX://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3694028,00.html
 
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