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Russian Officers Can Get It For You No Sale

October 6, 2009: For the third time in the last year, Russian customs officials have announced the cracking of a ring of retired and active duty military personnel caught smuggling weapons. The latest case involved MiG-29 parts being smuggled to Syria. Earlier this year, customs officials caught members of a gang that had been operating for about two years and were stealing components for S-75 (a fifty year old system), S-125, S-200 and S-300 (a 1990s design) anti-aircraft missile systems, and smuggling them to neighboring countries (that used to be part of the Soviet Union), where they were sold, or exported to more distant nations that used these missile systems, and were interested in less expensive spare parts. At the time of those arrests, some 22 tons of missile parts were seized. This gang had apparently sold parts that earned the thieves at least $10 million. Over a dozen officers were involved in the theft and smuggling of these items.

Back in March, Russian police caught a group of naval officers (including at least two admirals) trying to smuggle 30 anti-submarine missiles and 200 bombs to China. The shipment itself was caught at the Tajikistan border, mislabeled as older, obsolete, weapons. The shipment was actually new models, and the plot was apparently meant to enable China reverse-engineer the weapons and produce their own versions. The smugglers were apparently being paid $18 million for the shipment. The Russian admirals had arranged for the weapons to be classified as obsolete and eligible for disposal, but word of the scheme leaked out.

This theft and smuggling has been going on for nearly two decades, and became more rampant after the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. The theft and snuggling  was even more rampant in other former communist countries, leading to a flood of AK-47s, machine-guns and RPGs onto the black market. In Africa, this sudden appearance of cheap weapons eventually fueled fighting that killed millions of people. These days, the theft is more often of high tech, or rare, components, and weapons technology.

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bropous    DESPICABLE Russians   10/6/2009 8:49:18 AM
Russia itself is a terror-supporting nation.
 
These "retired generals and admirals" are probably woven into a Russian "maskirovka" smuggling plot sanctioned by the government.
 
Russia has been (not-so) quietly supporting terrorist nations such as Syria and Iran, along with their good buddies the ChiComs, supplying them not only with S-300s and Iskanders, but also with nuclear and ballistic missile technology, advisors, and components.  The reason that Iraq's WMDs "disappeared" before the US liberation of Iraq is that Putin worked with Sadam Husayn to transfer them all to Syria.
 
Vlad the Poisoner is, however, selling the ChiComs the rope that they will use to hang Russia in the end, and then it will be the Russian Bear, whimpering in European Russia with most of Siberia occupied by the ChiComs, who will turn to the West and beg for help.
 
Frankly, I am not so sure I would want American boys dying to save Russia from China.
 
Putin has a hard-on for the US, he hates us as well as all of our allies, and would happily go down to a Gotterdammerung fiery end just to stick the US in the eye.  Too bad too, because Russians aren't really horrible people.  But their stinking, anti-Western, corrupt terrorist supporting government is writing out their suicide pact every single day.
 
Two words to show the depths to which the depravity in Russia sinks:
 
"ARCTIC SEA".
 
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Dave_in_Pa       10/6/2009 11:36:57 AM
"Frankly, I am not so sure I would want American boys dying to save Russia from China."  I hope that related prediction in bropous' comment is wrong, because as I see it, a Russia-Chinese war over Siberia would likely end up going nuclear.
 
At this point, I'm reminded of Douglas MacArthur's dictum, "Wars are caused by undefended wealth."  I don't see how the Russians, with it's woefully degenerated armed forces and 1/6th the population of China, could stop China without resorting to tactical nukes, to which the Chinese would counter with their own tactical nukes. Then it would likely escalate to a strategic nuclear exchange.
 
But in any case, I'm definitely sure I don't want Americans dying to save Russia. 
 
Let the Russians go to that great and good superpower, the EU, for help. /sarc 
 
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WarNerd       10/6/2009 1:43:06 PM

These "retired generals and admirals" are probably woven into a Russian "maskirovka" smuggling plot sanctioned by the government.

More likely they were on a past job, then branched out on their own.  Their major "crime" was undoubtedly failing to share the take with their superiors (i.e. Putin and company).
 
However, the sale of sample quantities of new designs to China for reverse engineering would never have been approved as the Chinese would sell their copies to anyone cheaper than the Russians can afford to, eliminating the greater profits from the export market.
 
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Slim Pickinz       10/6/2009 2:03:26 PM
You guys are taking "The Bear and The Dragon" too seriously. The Chinese know if they tried to take Siberia, it would be met with nuclear retaliation, because that's the only credible defense the Russians have left right now. Also it has been discussed at length in previous threads that a Chinese occupation of Siberia would not be possible, partly due to the lack of roads and rail infrastructure available to move a large force to the area, and also the slight problem of there being nothing but the Siberian wasteland out there, little population, no cover, any occupying force would be sitting ducks out in the open.
 
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cwDeici       10/7/2009 3:32:30 AM

You guys are taking "The Bear and The Dragon" too seriously. The Chinese know if they tried to take Siberia, it would be met with nuclear retaliation, because that's the only credible defense the Russians have left right now. Also it has been discussed at length in previous threads that a Chinese occupation of Siberia would not be possible, partly due to the lack of roads and rail infrastructure available to move a large force to the area, and also the slight problem of there being nothing but the Siberian wasteland out there, little population, no cover, any occupying force would be sitting ducks out in the open.

Yeah, the far east is a bitch, but it does work both ways to some extent. The way to go in a military scenario is to really on smaller forces or gradual annexation, with heavy support from the air force and navy and the main army just serving as an auxiliary. Regardless I think China would win, taking heavy casualties from the Russian air defense and air force. Nukes would mean both lose.
So yes, no war... just lots and lots of emigration into Russia. muahahaha
 
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