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China Will Outsmart You

October 27, 2009: China is making no secret of the fact that they intend to rely heavily on Information War in any future conflict. This is reinforced by the extent to which China has been using Internet based espionage to steal military secrets. China is also spending more, than any other nation, to develop ways to control Internet use. Up until now, that has applied  only to Chinese Internet users, but many of those techniques can be used against other nations. Electronic warfare techniques (jamming, confusing and generally nullifying enemy electronic tools), first developed and used during World War II, are being adapted to Chinese needs.

While the details of Chinese military plans are secret, the general strategy isn't. The weapons, equipment and techniques the military uses, as well as discussions in professional journals, makes it clear how the Chinese plan to fight the United States in the next war. That's how many Chinese military experts describe it. The U.S. is the principal foe, and some kind of conflict is inevitable. All that may seem strange to Americans, but for most Chinese, it's just the way it is.

China plans to disrupt the American military, not destroy it. China takes for granted that they will be on the defensive, and forced to deal mainly with American air and naval forces. Methods discussed include attacks via the Internet (hacking and such) and electronic warfare (jamming and deceptions). China has been very active in controlling its domestic Internet users, and an increasing number of hacker attacks on U.S. military targets are being traced back to China. There, the government denies everything. Yet their professional journals talk about all the opportunities in this area. There are similar discussions of electronic warfare opportunities. In addition, the professional journals are full of exhortations to develop insights into the details of how the American armed forces operates, and adapt Chinese tactics to take care of any U.S. weaknesses.

These Chinese efforts are under the control of the highest military leaders and their staffs. All national resources (human and technical) are to be made available for this effort. This stuff is considered very important, and details are hard to come by. But if you look at the history of Information War, you can form some accurate ideas of how it will work.

 This sort of thing is nothing new in the history of warfare, and that's where the Chinese are coming from. The Chinese are big on learning from the past. It has, so to speak, often worked in the past. Chinese troops achieved some success with these traditional deception and Information War methods during the Korean War (1950-53), but their eagerness for outthinking the enemy has not resulted in any major battlefield successes for quite a while. Chinese military commanders are eager to change that. Only an actual war, or another revolution (that reveals their current secrets), will determine if the new methods might work.

 

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Nanheyangrouchuan    brining it home   10/27/2009 12:17:42 PM
Expats returning from China are finding that they've brought a piece of the GFW with them through the browser(s) they used in China. There is also the possibility that they've loaded some spyware on their computers as well.
 
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Dave_in_Pa       10/27/2009 1:16:00 PM
"All that may seem strange to Americans, but for most Chinese, it's just the way it is."
 
It shouldn't seem at all strange to thoughtful, well-read Americans.  My guess is that a possible war between China and America will most likely take place sometime between 2020 and 2050, most likely precipitated by a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. 
 
The Chinese have the same long-term ambition as did the Japanese ruling interests 60 years ago, domination of the Pacific for reasons of national geo-political and economic interests and power.  In short, a Chinese Fascist version of the former Japanese "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere".  This is also to be understood in the context of Douglas MacArthur's axiom, "Wars are caused by undefended wealth."
 
Like pre-WW2, the US is the principle obstacle to this ambition. Also like pre-WW2, most Americans are naive and uninformed about this looming threat and challenge.  The next few decades will be "interesting times".
 
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Photon       10/27/2009 3:08:45 PM

The best antidote to Chinese ambition is to have the willingness to use WMD and slaughter hundreds of millions of people and turn China into a huge wild animal park.  The basis of this course of option is to have a war plan that maximizes casualties and property losses.

Also, if the other side thinks it can outsmart you with superior tongues, then the last thing you want to do is to play his game.  He will out-tongue and outsmart you.  What should you do instead?  Each time he opens his mouth, you beat the crap out of his snout.  By using brute force, you have reduced the playing field and his advantages in tongue and smarts become marginal.

 
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cwDeici       11/2/2009 12:13:59 PM

"All that may seem strange to Americans, but for most Chinese, it's just the way it is."

 

It shouldn't seem at all strange to thoughtful, well-read Americans.  My guess is that a possible war between China and America will most likely take place sometime between 2020 and 2050, most likely precipitated by a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. 

 

The Chinese have the same long-term ambition as did the Japanese ruling interests 60 years ago, domination of the Pacific for reasons of national geo-political and economic interests and power.  In short, a Chinese Fascist version of the former Japanese "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere".  This is also to be understood in the context of Douglas MacArthur's axiom, "Wars are caused by undefended wealth."


 

Like pre-WW2, the US is the principle obstacle to this ambition. Also like pre-WW2, most Americans are naive and uninformed about this looming threat and challenge.  The next few decades will be "interesting times".



In that case you should maybe sell the F-16s to Taiwan so they can defend themselves...
Personally, the way things are going now there will be no need for any war as the Taiwanese are being forced by themselves and others to capitulate politically and economically and even militarily.
Also, I think the Chinese are not as far right in our (mother's side) foreign policy as the Japanese. And while it's true the Japanese were extremely racist way back when they did not desire war with America, though they were stupid enough to attack due to embargos. Then again, 'fortress America' might have happened in a few decades.
 
Photon: While I agree with you in a strategic sense your desire to kill as many as possible where a proper war would be sufficient makes you a cold-blooded racist murderer of innocents. I hope if something as thus ever happens that you are hit by a Chinese nuke and slowly burn to death.
 
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cwDeici       11/2/2009 12:18:13 PM
By the by it does confuse me when a nation more evil than good does well. I think the truth lies in 'and if you shall turn to the Lord he shall let you plunder the nations' (though one may note that China has received very willing help from the West to do this with the exception of the years directly following June the 4'th). China has 10% Christians and this number is growing fast, and while Chinese evangelical protestant Christians are loyalists, they are pro-democracy loyalists who favor a western style foreign diplomacy.
 
Time will show.
 
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cwDeici       11/2/2009 12:21:58 PM
PS. If you meant it in a hypothetical sense Photon, then I retract my statement/conditional hope for your future.
 
There is no way anyhow I think the current Chinese government is evil enough to deserve that (also, very competent economically to its citizens... compared to just a few decades ago when they confiscated my great-grandfaters shop and kept him in jail exorting from my grandfather in Hong Kong till he died), the Muslims and Nazi germany back in the day... maybe, but it is still not an option, not even against the muslims.
 
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cwDeici       11/2/2009 12:24:37 PM
...or Nazis.
 
As a warhawk I believe genocide is a last resort of self-defense. If one has the resources to do so the moral prerogative is to reeducate or if impossible, reduce.
 
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