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Those Amazing Su-27 Pictures

July 30, 2009: There are currently pictures making the rounds on the net showing a Russian warplane (apparently an Su-27) flying without its canopy, and then having the guy in the back seat eject. The aircraft is sometimes described as an Su-35, but if you check the details, you'll note that it was an original Su-35 (not the current "F-22ski" Su-35), which was an improved Su-27 that was prototyped, but never entered service.

All this was filmed in southern Russia for a 2005 Russian movie Zerkalnie Voyni (Mirror Wars), an espionage movie told from the Russian point of view (the Americans are the bad guys.) The movie has some poor special effects, so it was apparently cheaper to rent one of those Su-35s and two adventuresome pilots to do the stunts for real. Oh, and the movie sucked. They apparently spent more money on aircraft rentals than they did on the script and the supporting cast. The movie was produced by Kremlin Films. Makes sense.

Flying a jet fighter without the canopy is not unusual, as it happens occasionally after accidents. There are some pretty scary videos out there showing very torn up (from mid-air collisions) aircraft struggling to stay in the air, and even landing.

 

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Slim Pickinz    ???   7/30/2009 5:37:54 PM
How is it possible for an aircraft to keep flying after an ejection seat has been used? Would the rocket motors on the seat not fry the cockpit, nevermind causing injury to the pilot?
 
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enomosiki       7/30/2009 7:35:30 PM

How is it possible for an aircraft to keep flying after an ejection seat has been used? Would the rocket motors on the seat not fry the cockpit, nevermind causing injury to the pilot?


The aircraft took off without its canopy. Once it was up at an altitude, only the co-pilot (back seat) ejected to film the scene while the pilot stayed inside and landed the aircraft soon afterwards.
 
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Whispering Death       7/30/2009 10:10:38 PM

This thread is useless without pics.

 
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enomosiki       7/31/2009 12:09:05 AM

This thread is useless without pics.












 
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formercccp       7/31/2009 10:23:36 AM
Hi Comrades, Check out this video - those of you who are fans of military aviation will certainly enjoy it even though its in russian. Its literal translation is Space Catapult, it goes over the history and development of some of the best ejection systems in the world. ( insert here standard strategypage "russians better have good seats, since their planes cant fly " statement ). :-D anyway. Enjoy the video!


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In the Ukrainian airshow crash the two crew did not eject till after the aircraft had clipped the ground with its wing... both survived.

The K36 is used on most Russian aircraft up to and including the Buran spaceshuttle.

It is however much heavier than western systems. (Having said that they often contain O2 supply and caninclude survival kit including AK-74 assault rifles and inflatible boats/shelters.) Advantages include wider operation envelope plus as you mentioned the pilot is not "tied" in by restraints to pretect his arms and legs during the whole mission. Arms and legs are restrained on ejection to prevent injury through impact with cockpit instruments or canopy. 

 
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formercccp       7/31/2009 10:49:05 AM
lol strategy page - sorry guys for the spam really tried to get the link to work but it doesnt last try like this maybe ( since russian characters arent showing up either :(, I am only trying as I know the real mil fans will like the video and the series, its caliber of the old Wings on Discovery ) so

 
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Phaid       8/3/2009 6:10:50 PM
The footage was shot for a movie called Kerosene Cowboys.  The ejection stills are a fake.  The Flanker took off without a canopy and with its rear seat removed, but nobody ever ejected from that aircraft.  The pictures showing the ejection are obviously photoshopped, they are of a different Flanker which is sitting on the ground - look at the clouds below the aircraft, and the angle of the control surfaces, and it's quite obvious.
 
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Phaid       8/3/2009 6:14:25 PM
Here's an unretouched picture of the ejection:
 
 
 
Notice the obvious differences between this 801 and the one that flew without its canopy -- this one is a plain old Su-27UB, the top of the vertical tails are angled vs the real 801's which are straight, and the paint sheme is different in a number of places.
 
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