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China Has A Secret Plan

March 29, 2009: China forcefully protested the recent publication of a U.S. Department of Defense report on Chinese military power. The Pentagon study pointed out that Chinese defense spending had doubled in the last decade, and that even this number was deceptive. China, like all other communist nations, regularly hides most of its defense spending elsewhere. Thus while the current official Chinese defense budget is about $59 billion, the actual spending is about twice that The U.S. report pointed out that the Chinese have no military threats along its borders, and the only justification for a major military buildup is to provide sufficient force to take over Taiwan quickly (before American forces could intervene), or impose its will on various offshore territorial disputes.

China insists that its military spending is purely for defensive purposes. What China does not comment on is the two decades of officially sanctioned media activity inside China, wherein the United States is portrayed as the opponent in a future war. The books, articles and films all make this future war sound inevitable. China does not allow, officially at least, this stuff to be translated. But Westerners can obtain it, and some has been translated. Once you go over this material, China's defense spending, and their recent protests about it, make sense. The Chinese leadership, a bunch of Communist Party politicians, are desperate to keep their police state going. Creating a credible external enemy, and mobilizing nationalistic fervor, is a classic way of retaining power.

China is trying to modernize their military, with particular emphasis on technologies and techniques that will avoid fighting American strengths head on. Again, this is a major discussion point in Chinese military journals. It's no secret, if you can read Chinese. Thus China's reaction to the Department of Defense report is based on that idea that anything published on the subject in Chinese doesn't count. Since few Western journalists can read Chinese, the Chinese strategy will probably work. It has so far.

 

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CJH       3/29/2009 8:59:29 AM
Ok, the Chinese gain a little internal temporary stabilty by casting the US as THE enemy and object of a great patriotic effort.
But what do the Chinese have to gain strategically through a successful outcome to a conflict, at least that makes it worth the effort?
 
Perhaps they covet Alaska and Hawaii along with Guam. Alaska does have natural resources.
 
I recognise it is completely possible that the US may the the ultimate object here but I doubt it.
 
The most evident reason for the buildup I believe is to coerce it neighbors starting with Taiwan of course. Diplomacy is so much easier when you have a big gun pointed at your opposites.
 
But China has long term regional concerns. Russia is China's biggest ongoing concern I believe because of the long frontier between them. They can both be accused of designs for hegemony. You can't have two number ones.
 
Japan was once the main enemy and potentially could be that again.
 
India should be China's chief new rival. India is growing and ambitious. I would look for India to make greater strides than China if its population can surpasses that of China. India occupies a more centrally strategic position in the world than China and is closer to Middle East oil.
 
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       3/29/2009 12:30:41 PM
Long term, the US and China are natural enemies, they have seen this since the turn of the century when the Qing dynasty sent scholars to study in the US and also sent imperial minders to keep an eye on them so that they maintained "proper thought".  Too bad we haven't seen it and that business and academic interests deliberately hobble the US.
 
Taking back Taiwan, Okinawa and Korea is about rebuilding the image of the old empire (though the first two only paid tribute and were populated by a few Chinese fisherman and many aboriginals) and having better bases to project sea power.  China is also quietly fomenting Hawaiian pushes for independence.  War with Japan is mostly about punishing them for de-facing China at the start of WW2.
 
India and Russia are targeted for their resources as much as being competitive neighbors.   And it is China's desperation for water and arable land that is going to cause war in the near term.
 
"http://shanghaiist.com/2009/03/29/todays_links_hypothesis_of_a_world.php#_login"
 
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Spiky    Thirst of the Dragon   3/29/2009 1:24:26 PM
Actually,  the biggest natural resource policy that is driving China is not water, or arable land, but OIL. China's thirst for the good old fashioned "sweet crude" is growing exponentially and much, much faster than even that of the U.S.
 
China is competing for oil in Canada, South America, and specially in Africa.
 
China knows all too well that its exploding industrial economy will flat line unless it can get more OIL. We here in the U.S. actually are better positioned in secure OIL and other resources (whether domestically or foreign) than China and this too they know. And they know that we know that fact. That is why China said to heck with enviromental laws (domestic or international) and is building coal power plants like there is no tomorrow in order to supplement their lack of OIL resources (at one time like us they were actually exporting oil, that went away as soon as China mega industrialized in the last three decades). That is why they DO plan to have a blue water naval force that can compete and secure the flow of oil that most of it must go through the South China Sea. Pakistan, Australia, India, Singapore, Japan, ect,... the countries in that area know this also and thus a quiet, but evident naval race in Asia. Look at the big picture, energy is at the very core.
 
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carlos       3/29/2009 3:39:38 PM
the usa is always complaining about some other country.  what the article fail to express is that the usa is everyone enemy.
they want to control and exploit all the other countries. and with a military budget more than the whole world put together. 
what a bunch of hypocrites.
 
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Photon       3/29/2009 6:03:35 PM
Perhaps the best means to nip Beijing is to force their hands before they are ready for a big showdown.  Use their need to prop up images of past Chinese greatness and nationalism against them.  The underlying theme is to force them to do something rash, or they will lose face.  (The constant need to save one's face and to over-exaggerate one's self-worth are among the fatal flaws endemic to much of Asian cultures.)
 
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Photon       3/29/2009 6:07:14 PM

the usa is always complaining about some other country.  what the article fail to express is that the usa is everyone enemy.

they want to control and exploit all the other countries. and with a military budget more than the whole world put together. 

what a bunch of hypocrites.


Who would you rather want to be the world's hyperpower?  China?  Russia??  The impotent EU???
 
Meanwhile, we have tried multipolar world during the first half of the 20th century.  What happened?  Two great wars, and end sliding of once great European powers into secondary importance.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       3/29/2009 6:48:42 PM
Oil is nothing to water, we can live without oil (not comfortably, but it is possible) but there is no life without water and water is used at least as a coolant in oil refining and oil fired plants as well as a drilling lubricant, fracking solution and for cementing the sides of boreholes in production.
 
Oh, you need water to grow food to.
 
Water: 1  Oil: 0
 
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snufflesdarkness       3/29/2009 8:41:27 PM
Some people just don't get it. United States has to always analyze other countries especially China. They are always up to something, trying to benefit themselves. In fact if you looked at China's history, of all the different dynasties, whether the ruler was domestic or foreign, they have run same kind of government. Pure exploitation of their own people and hypocrisy. The great wall of China to keep outsiders out? Yeah right, it looked more like the new stimulus and tax plan back then. Build the wall to give people work and stimulate the country, work them to death, use their dead bodies as fill between the walls. Then guard it so people can't escape the country because they hate taxes in some form. Why have the Egyptions "forgotten" how the pyraminds were built? That was stimulus program by the Leader for the nation that had to use slaves because it didn't generate real wealth. Sorry to get off topic. Remember China is communist no matter how much they let capitalism sink in, they will lie, cheat, steal for results. No real patriotism, morals, identity, but the state. They want the military and they especially need it because they are at strategical disadvantage if a conflict comes up. Their economy is dependant on a lot of coastal shipping, so if you cut off the coast for few weeks even, they will suffer. If you don't believe me, see how the Japanese took control most of China in late 1930s so quickly. 
 
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snufflesdarkness       3/29/2009 8:45:15 PM
Some people just don't get it. United States has to always analyze other countries especially China. They are always up to something, trying to benefit themselves. In fact if you looked at China's history, of all the different dynasties, whether the ruler was domestic or foreign, they have run same kind of government. Pure exploitation of their own people and hypocrisy. The great wall of China to keep outsiders out? Yeah right, it looked more like the new stimulus and tax plan back then. Build the wall to give people work and stimulate the country, work them to death, use their dead bodies as fill between the walls. Then guard it so people can't escape the country because they hate taxes in some form. Why have the Egyptions "forgotten" how the pyraminds were built? That was stimulus program by the Leader for the nation that had to use slaves because it didn't generate real wealth. Sorry to get off topic. Remember China is communist no matter how much they let capitalism sink in, they will lie, cheat, steal for results. No real patriotism, morals, identity, but the state. They want the military and they especially need it because they are at strategical disadvantage if a conflict comes up. Their economy is dependant on a lot of coastal shipping, so if you cut off the coast for few weeks even, they will suffer. If you don't believe me, see how the Japanese took control most of China in late 1930s so quickly. 
 
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Slim Pickinz    carlos   3/29/2009 10:48:44 PM
Just like your blind hatred of the U.S. renders you an ignorant sheep. What has the United States ever done to detriment your way of life specifically? Do you have any real reason for hating them, or did you just hop on the bandwagon because it's the cool thing to do these days?
 
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carlos       3/29/2009 10:48:48 PM
why u remove my post, does not coincide with your political view. u keep your views straight and narrow i see.
 
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Spiky    Thirst of the Dragon   3/29/2009 10:59:54 PM
Yes, I agree when it comes to our lives water is more important than water, you are right.
 
But, that was not my point. The point is that OIL is the China's number one energy policy that drives them politically, socially, and specially militarily, NOT water or arable land. History clearly has shown in the last one hundred years and specially the WW2 and afterwards that nations are going to war mainly over OIL not water, or arable land like in ancient times. FACT: China spends hundreds of BILLIONS a year on OIL over and above what they spend on water or arable land. Even in strategypage you have seen article after article that talks about China, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and the Philippines claiming little insignificant islands (with little water or arable land) because of the possibility of OIL and natural gas in the South Asian Seas. They are all contesting for OIL not water or arable land. They are financing larger, much larger navies to protect ocean OIL resources (little fresh water or arable land on the ocean). And once China has a blue water navy, they will start to compete even in the Persian Gulf for OIL from that area, but for now they can't. So, they are concentrating on Africa (like Sudan), South America (Venezuela, Peru), and even making deals with Canada. Hint: Not for water but for OIL.
 
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colforbin       3/29/2009 11:23:21 PM

Why have the Egyptions "forgotten" how the pyraminds were built? That was stimulus program by the Leader for the nation that had to use slaves because it didn't generate real wealth.


actually archeological evidence suggests they were built not by salves but by paid skilled workers with thriving communities. if you were thinking of biblical references, note that the pyramids are not cities, nor were they built out of mud and straw bricks, but cut stone. its hard to take you seriously if your just gonna disregard the facts.
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan       3/29/2009 11:58:07 PM
China can and is bargaining for oil and gas, the Russians, African and Arabs will trade for cash or barter (especially the Africans).  But water?  China already has plans to invade NE India over water as well as Siberia, because you don't sell water, you control it.  OOSKA has run 3 or 4 articles about Russia's intention to use water for political leverage in the ME and central Asia in the same manner it uses gas with Europe.
 
And the Great Wall was not a stimulus plan, soldiers built the wall and their families were relocated to be with them when rebellion was building.  It was to keep the Mongol calvary out but they went around the wall instead (and ended up breaching it later on, so did the Manchurians).
 
There may have been Jewish and African slaves doing the dangerous work when the Pyramids were built, but it was a civil service obligation (and a good paying one) for Egyptians to participate.  There was worker housing, farms dedicated to feeding the workers and bonuses were paid in beer.
 
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snufflesdarkness       3/30/2009 2:20:18 PM
Dude, 
I know this is off topic, but I really don't care for archaeologist might have said, they are just coming to educated guess on how they were done. Its like health experts, they keep changing their minds on what is healthy and what it not. If the Egyptions still had info on how they were built, we wouldn't of needed so many archaelogists to go out there and figure this out. Of course they probably used skilled labor, with art, geometry, architecture, but still do you think capiltalism was big thing back then? Wasn't the Pharoah a God on Earth? In reality, don't you think a structure like the pyramids caused heavy taxation and a lot cheap or free labor? Then again you missed you my point and just fragmented a piece to show I was (possibly)wrong about one thing. Even without sourcing which archealogist made that discovery. 
 
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