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Al Qaeda Playbook In Action

June 10, 2009: Three years ago, the trial, and conviction, of Islamic terrorists in New York City, brought out the extent to which police had infiltrated Moslem communities in order to uncover terrorist plots. While most of this counter-terrorist activity within Moslem communities is kept secret, enough information has leaked out to make it clear that it's no accident that the United States has not suffered another terrorist attack since September 11, 2001. This soon led to growing calls from Moslem groups to halt the practice of using such informants within their community. This opposition to intelligence collection is right out of the al Qaeda playbook. Al Qaeda websites contain advice, and discussion, of how to use indignation and protests against "invasion of privacy" and "disrespect for Islam" to get Western counter-terror organizations to stop using such informants.

 But there is still an extensive informant network within Moslem communities all over the United States. The FBI was pleasantly surprised, right after September 11, 2001, by the number of calls they got from American Moslems, reporting suspicious events in their communities, or volunteering to keep an eye on things. It turned out that there was a substantial number of American Moslems, most of them recent immigrants (legal and illegal) that were pro al Qaeda. These attitudes had been causing distress among American Moslems since the 1990s. There had been violence back then, and even some murders, as the Islamic radicals tried to take control of Mosques, and other Moslem immigrant organizations.

While Arabs have been migrating to the United States for over a century, until the 1960s, most of those migrants were Arab Christians, or Jews. Once Israel was founded, the Middle Eastern Jews generally went to Israel, while Arab Christians continued to head for America. Then came the large waves of Arab Moslems. The established Arab-Americans did not have close ties with the Moslem migrants. There were some pan-Arab organizations, but the Arab Moslems tended to keep to themselves. This was no surprise to the Arab-American Christians, as their ancestors had come to American to escape persecution by Moslems back home. Old animosities die hard.

But many of the Moslem Arab-Americans took to the idea of "becoming Americans," without leaving behind all their cultural baggage from the old country. It was these first and second generation Arab-Americans, as well as Moslem migrants from other parts of the world, that provided the FBI with information about what was going on inside the hundreds of Moslem communities. While there have been some arrests, and prosecutions of American Moslems for terrorist activity, many more pro-terrorist groups simply dissolved when it became known, via some official visits, or gossip, that the feds knew what was going on in the community. The prosecutions that did take place around the country, almost always resulted in convictions and long sentences. Suddenly, it was no longer a game to sit around and pretend you were going to be a "holy warrior" and bring death and destruction to the Great Satan (the U.S.).

Few of the informants within the communities were revealed, and those that tried to ferret them out, or persecute suspected informants, found themselves the subject of police investigation themselves, and hostility from the Moslem community. This had a strong deterrent effect on Islamic militants trying to create "liberated zones" in the United States. This was a major difference with the situation in Europe, where many Moslem communities are very pro-terrorist. 

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Dave_in_Pa       6/10/2009 10:26:17 AM
"This had a strong deterrent effect on Islamic militants trying to create "liberated zones" in the United States. This was a major difference with the situation in Europe, where many Moslem communities are very pro-terrorist."
 
That would seem to result of two basic factors: 1. far less discrimination against Muslims in the US, as opposed to in Europe; 2. American governmental willingness to confront domestic terrorists and their extremist support network, as opposed to European denial and appeasement. This is also a manifestation of cultural contrast between America and Europe.
 
Here's one contrasting example of point 1. A black African Muslim I know who was born and raised in Mali is now living and prospering in the US.  He's a very intelligent man (among other abilities, fluent in five languages). His affluent (by Mali standards) family was able to send him to university in France.  He graduated with honors in Business, Economics or something like that.  He was unable to get a job in France, other than a janitorial or fast food type job.
 
He and one of his sisters, also university educated, emigrated to the US and both are doing very well. Not all Muslims are against women getting educated, just Arabs and those brainwashed by Sunni extremist Wahhabi-type cultural extremist Islamism, such as is found in Af-stan-Paki Taliban and Al Qaeda and their sympathizers. West African black Muslims, in contrast, practice a much more moderate brand of Islam and are also cultural moderates far more amenable to integration into Western societies (where societally permitted-encouraged, as in the US).
 
(BTW, this Mali gentleman also tried to enlist in the US Armed Forces after 9/11.  It looked like the Army was going to take him him, with a view to OCS and a commission. Unfortunately, it turned out he had a health issue which meant he didn't meet the physical standards.)
 
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BobbieO22    Deployment of The Terrorists   6/11/2009 2:20:14 AM
Terrorists have penetrated the Nations that were their Targets by Slipping through the Cracks in  The  Security Systems that they Targeted! By Getting involved in Security for Muslims and Their Agenda. While occupying the World at large with their Bombing Campaigns. They were able to do this by making the Whole World believe that all Muslims weren't Bad, but then they Created the Muslim Phobia for The World Audiences. This was a very effective mechanism that made a lot of Nations feel that the Terrorists had the Upper Hand! This then caused alot of Victimization for The Masses! By going into Iraq and Afghanistan, and now Pakistan we and The Allies have reversed the Phobia for Our favor and made the terrorists Victims of their own Belief System although they do not show fear! As long as they have the Drug Educated Mindset they will have the Corrupted Protection of The Dark Forces that become the Eyes and Ears of The Streets and Countries of the World. Where they Hide and Prosper! The Drug Trade being a Monster they can Rely on for Comfort Courage as well as Alliegence, to their Belief System while they Mix a General Islamic Faith Sytem into it!  Then They even Have gods word on it to Display before the Whole World to convince the Shivering Denizens of The Fear Systems of The Caliphate and The Mujaeddin to Kill any and all Defiance even their Own People. To Secure their Purpose! In the End They will be the Victims of Their own Nightmares and Fail to Understand the Phonyness of The Lies they Believe! This was Their Psychological Operation as well as their Intel Ops too! Now Cornered in Pakistan the Old Men of The Taliban will put up the Greatest Battles they can Master and will Kill as Many People, Muslim, Chistian, Jew and Other Earth People as they can while the do their best to get The Nukes and The Axis of Evil lined up for The  Grand Finally! North Korea is Lined up with them to the maximus! Volunteer Intelligence
 
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FJV    Nothing new   6/11/2009 1:33:04 PM
In the 1980's it was the communists doing the bombing now it's the islamic fundamentalists. One ism is replaced by the other ism.
 
Makes one wonder wheter a certain percentage of any population will end up as terrorists regardless of what the ism is currently in vogue. The "ideology" being merely the excuse.
 
Islamic fundamentalists credit themselves way to much. They are not that special, or frightening.
 
 

 
 
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Headlock       6/11/2009 1:41:24 PM

....Terrorists have penetrated the Nations that were their Targets by Slipping through the Cracks in  The  Security Systems that they Targeted! By Getting involved in Security for Muslims and Their Agenda. While occupying the World at large with their Bombing Campaigns. They were able to do this by making the Whole World believe that all Muslims weren't Bad, but then they Created the Muslim Phobia for The World Audiences. This was a very effective mechanism that made a lot of Nations feel that the Terrorists had the Upper Hand! This then caused alot of Victimization for The Masses! By going into Iraq and Afghanistan, and now Pakistan we and The Allies have reversed the Phobia for Our favor and made the terrorists Victims of their own Belief System although they do not show fear! As long as  .....
etc etc etc etc etc etc.
Yawn. Ever hear of paragraphs? Or an acutal point to writing something?
& your use of Capitals in All the Most Bizzare places is simply Hilarious. And a bit Sad.
You have no actual point to make, that was all just a rant.  Go find some other website to post this vomit on.

HDK 

 
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Headlock       6/11/2009 1:55:48 PM
""In the 1980's it was the communists doing the bombing now it's the islamic fundamentalists. One ism is replaced by the other ism.

Makes one wonder wheter a certain percentage of any population will end up as terrorists regardless of what the ism is currently in vogue. The "ideology" being merely the excuse.

Islamic fundamentalists credit themselves way to much. They are not that special, or frightening.""


~ Good points. I remember reading somewhere that "There are always young men ready to believe in something, anything and to die for it"., and I think that was written at the turn of the century (19th to 20th). 

I'd add that its not just the Fundamentalists who credit themselves too much, but the general media/public. Fear sells, and while I would verge from the strongly anti-media opinions voiced here I do agree that fear has been piled on fear, without balancing it with proper analysys. 

Contrast the hysteria over "terrorists everywhere" with the reality of Afghanistan: almost every time the Taleban go up against regular forces they get the crap kicked out of them (apart from the French ambush a while back; but which, you''ll notice, has not been repeated).

Any coward can blow unarmed civilians up, shot/behead tied-up hostages. That doenst make them heroes, or martyrs. It simply shows how stupid, short sighted and amoral they are. Im from Republlic of Ireland, and when those fuckers the IRA blew up a crowd of people at a memorial ceremony they lost almost all public support down south. They thought they were make a statement, or ablow agaisnt the Brits, and it completely backfired on them. WHy? Becuase they believed thier own hype and thought that killing unarmed civilians (incl. a pregnant woman) was a legitmate tactic. It isnt, its repulsive to the vast amjority of humans, and this kind of behavious wil ALWAYS result in a extremely strong backlash. 

Which the fundies are now discovering. 

Terrorism is the recourse of the stupid and morally bankrupt, and is self-defeating in the short-mid-long term.

HDK 

 
 

 

 
 

 

 




 


 
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