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Israeli Tanks Get Anti-Missile Missiles

August 10, 2009: After three years of agonizing over the issue, Israel had decided to equip its most modern tanks (Merkava IVs) with an anti-missile system. All this because, three years ago, 22 Israeli Merkava tanks were damaged by Russian Kornet anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) in southern Lebanon. Even before the end of the 2006 war, it was determined that most of the missile hits could have been averted if the tanks had been equipped with available anti-missile systems. Because of this, army armor commanders have been fighting, for over two years, to get the money to equip at least some of their Merkavas with the Trophy APS (Active Protection System.)

Trophy consists of a radar to detect incoming missiles, and small rockets to rush out and disable the incoming threat. A complete trophy system weighs a ton. Russia pioneered the development of these anti-missile systems. The first one, the Drozd, entered active service in 1983, mainly for defense against American ATGMs. These the Russians feared a great deal, as American troops had a lot of them, and the Russians knew these missiles (like TOW) worked. Russia went on to improve their anti-missile systems, but was never able to export many of them. This was largely because these systems were expensive (over $100,000 per vehicle), no one trusted Russian hi-tech that much, and new tanks, like the American M-1, were seen as a bigger threat than ATGMs.

The Israeli Trophy uses better, more reliable, and more expensive technology than the Russian Drozd (or its successors.) For about $350,000 per system, Trophy will protect a vehicle from ATGMs as well as RPGs (which are much more common in combat zones.) Israel is the first Western nation to have a lot of their tanks shot up by modern ATGMs, and apparently fears the situation will only get worse, as Hezbollah has apparently obtained a lot more Kornet missiles (which were mostly used against Israeli infantry, who coped by learning to maneuver differently.)

Israel first encountered ATGM, on a large scale, in the 1973 Arab-Israeli war. But these were the clumsy, first generation ATGMs. These turned out to be more smoke than fire. But the latest ATGM, like Kornet, are more deadly, but not by a whole lot. Nevertheless, Israel is getting ready. Israel tried to sell Trophy to the United States, but without success.

 

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blogagog    hmm   8/10/2009 9:26:11 AM
I hope no one ever comes out with an effective countermeasure to anti-missile missiles.  Because then we'd have to call it an anti "anti-missile missile" missile.
 
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Little Ray       8/10/2009 1:36:53 PM
Or an anti-anti-missile.
 
More likely though, we'll just call 'em "penaids" (penetration aids) - or KYs.  
 
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Don Vandervelde     the new crossbow   8/10/2009 2:24:17 PM
Bill Tell could shoot an apple off his son's head because he had one of those danged newfangled aimable crossbows whose bolt could accurately hit its target even when used by ordinary people without years of practice.  It earned a bad reputation among military professionals who thot it unfair to allow mere serfs to outshoot them.
 
   Now comes the "hit a bullet with another bullet" crowd.  Current advanced technology now can 'shoot down' missiles with blinding speed at close range.  Not only that, the detecting computer can instantly calculate the point source of the attacking missile and instantly automatically launch counter fire making things hot for the attackers.  This has been shown to work also with the relatively slow mortar and artillery shells.    Score one more for another technological defeat for  dimwitted but vicious mass-murderer terrorists and other baddies
 
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LB    Not Just Merkava   8/10/2009 4:34:24 PM
The IDF is fitting another active protection system, Iron Fist, on it's Namer heavy infantry carrier.
 
The Soviet ATGW's the IDF ran into in 1973 were not "more smoke than fire".  It forced Israel to dump it's tank heavy organization and doctrine and relearn combined arms on the fly.  The 1973 war heavily influenced land combat and organization for the next 25 years- especially the effectivenes of ATGWs.
 
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RtWingCon    costs?   8/10/2009 8:53:49 PM
Is that $100k in 1983 dollars compared to $350k in 2009 dollars? pretty damn close to same costs then. I believe there was an article on this site a couple yrs back about a very cheap system using simple radar guns and a shotgun(i think). Private firm from US and it was nowhere near the those costs. Maybe somebody could elaborate.
 
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RtWingCon    recycled article   8/10/2009 9:03:09 PM
While looking for the cheap system article previously mentioned in the last post, I found the article above to be recycled from Sept 9, 2007! WTF strategy page-come up with something new.
 
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RtWingCon    link   8/10/2009 9:31:57 PM
here's a link of a short range system the Army is testing-Supposedly less than $3000 per shot.
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mabie       8/11/2009 7:55:17 AM

here's a link of a short range system the Army is testing-Supposedly less than $3000 per shot.

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That's an even older post going back to 2005. I'm curious what the army has in mind to protect its tanks from overhead attacks.

 
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JFKY    LB   8/11/2009 8:33:17 AM
Whilst the AT-3 "Sagger" (IIRC) got all the press, an actual examination of the tanks that were destroyed....showed that a majority of them were killed by T-54 10 cm main guns OR the RPG-7...and that only a minority of the kills came from ATGM's....more smoke than fire is accurate.
 
However, you are correct that the IDF had to relearn Combined Arms Tactics on the fly...the Egyptians didn't run when the tanks charged their dug-in infantry...as the IDF expected.
 
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