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Air Defense: S-400 Catches Up, For Real
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February 23, 2010: Russia activated its first S-400 (also known as the SA-20, Growler or Triumf) anti-aircraft missile system around Moscow. This new version of the S-300 pays particular attention to electronic countermeasures that the Americans might have, or be developing. Two years ago, Russia announced that the first S-400 had entered service around Moscow. But that didn't actually happen, and development work continued. Recent test firings of the missiles were successful, and a battalion is now deployed around Moscow. Each S-400 battalion has eight launchers, each with four missiles, plus a control center and radar. The two year delay allowed more system components to be built, so two more battalions will be in place around Moscow by the end of the year.

The S-400 is similar to the U.S. Patriot, and is expensive. Russia is unsure if they want to export S-400 right away, because of the advanced technology. Meanwhile, work is underway on the S-500, which is scheduled for deployment within five years.

The S-400 missiles weigh 1.8 tons each and are 26 feet long and about 20 inches in diameter. The missiles have a range of some 400 kilometers, and can hit targets as high as 100,000 feet. The missile has a 320 pound warhead. The target acquisition radar has a range of 700 kilometers.

The S-400 has over five times the range of the U.S. Patriot, weighs twice as much and claims the ability to detect stealthy aircraft. The S-400 also has an anti-missile capability, which is limited to shorter range (3,500 kilometers) ballistic missiles. That would mean a warhead coming in at about 5,000 meters a second (the longer the range of a ballistic missile, the higher its re-entry speed.)

The S-400 system actually has two missiles, one of them being a smaller, shorter range (120 kilometers) one. The S-400 has no combat experience, but U.S. intelligence believes that the tests these systems have undergone indicate it is a capable air defense weapon. Just how capable won't be known until it actually gets used in combat.

Russia plans to buy up to 200 launchers (each with four missiles) by 2015, and phase out the older S-300 and S-200 systems. This would mean deploying at least 18 battalions in the next six years, and perhaps more than twenty. The S-400 is sometimes described as an improved version of the S-300. Basically, it is. This is how Russia prefers to develop weapons, making incremental improvements on a basic design, and doing so for decades if the system continues to be successful.

 

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mabie       2/23/2010 8:11:19 AM
I wonder how big a wargead the S400 missiles employ to take out an incoming ballistic warhead. Presumably it gets close enough to get the job done with a big blast. Its striking that the US has gone to hit-to-kill tech to destroy incoming warheads.. Even the latest version of the Patriot uses a HTK vehicle.
 
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mabie       2/23/2010 8:12:36 AM
my bad.. the article states it has a 320lb warhead.
 
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Toosh       2/23/2010 8:38:04 AM
Russiahttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif" width="10" height="10" alt="" /> activated its first S-400 (also known as the SA-20, Growler or Triumf) anti-aircraft missile system around Moscow. This new version of the S-300 pays particular attention to electronic countermeasures that the Americans might have
 
Do the potato heads who occupy the Kremlin actually think the United States is going to attack Moscow. ROFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!  The Russians had better start thinking about building alliances with the US. They have a lot more to fear from the Chinese than America. All that sparely occupied land in their far east. Rich in minerals. And to the south a country of 1.3 billion hungry for that land and resources. Many of whom think the land belongs to them to begin with. Putin is an an absolute moron. And a long term disaster for Russia,
 
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butch       2/23/2010 3:10:50 PM
If Chineses are going to grasp resources of Siberia where Putin should place &<057;-400? Along border with China? Chineses will not risk a misfortune while there is a threat to receive on a muzzle. Just as Americans and all the others. Such threat remains, control centres of Rocket strategic forces are not destroyed yet. &<057;-400 in enough very much confuses cards that who wishes to put into practice such plans (not very well Chineses it or Americans). Strange that such simple trues to someone are not clear.
Putin certainly a headache for the West. With Yeltsin it was easier. Not without reason it name in the West the greatest Russian "democrat". Putin on the contrary as a bone in a throat, hence it "dictator". In Stalin's government there was a Minister for Foreign Affairs on a surname of Molotov, he spoke that if the foreign governments praise us, something means here not so and if us abuse, means we does all correctly. It on has lost urgencies and now.
 
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cwDeici       2/27/2010 12:40:19 AM

If Chineses are going to grasp resources of Siberia where Putin should place &<057;-400? Along border with China? Chineses will not risk a misfortune while there is a threat to receive on a muzzle. Just as Americans and all the others. Such threat remains, control centres of Rocket strategic forces are not destroyed yet. &<057;-400 in enough very much confuses cards that who wishes to put into practice such plans (not very well Chineses it or Americans). Strange that such simple trues to someone are not clear.

Putin certainly a headache for the West. With Yeltsin it was easier. Not without reason it name in the West the greatest Russian "democrat". Putin on the contrary as a bone in a throat, hence it "dictator". In Stalin's government there was a Minister for Foreign Affairs on a surname of Molotov, he spoke that if the foreign governments praise us, something means here not so and if us abuse, means we does all correctly. It on has lost urgencies and now.


Yeltsin was a democrat because he supported democracy and Putin a dictator because he destroyed it.
 
Other than that I agree. A credible defense against China involves AA around Moscow, just as the West does for Iran.
 
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Lance Blade    LOL   2/27/2010 12:36:48 PM



Yeltsin was a democrat because he supported democracy and Putin a dictator because he destroyed it.

 

Other than that I agree. A credible defense against China involves AA around Moscow, just as the West does for Iran.


With all due respect, I would suggest you check your sources. Yeltsin was the one who destroyed Russian democracy. Putin simply inherited a completely demoralized country and turned it round. The only reason why Russians tolerate Putin and allow his party to control the media etc, is because they don't believe there is anything better out there.
 
Witnessing what happened just across the border in Ukraine definitely didn't help. Sometimes I get the distinct impression Putin and Medvedev are the only Russian politicians who really believe in liberal democracy in that place. 
 
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butch       2/28/2010 3:14:07 PM



If Chineses are going to grasp resources of Siberia where Putin should place &<057;-400? Along border with China? Chineses will not risk a misfortune while there is a threat to receive on a muzzle. Just as Americans and all the others. Such threat remains, control centres of Rocket strategic forces are not destroyed yet. &<057;-400 in enough very much confuses cards that who wishes to put into practice such plans (not very well Chineses it or Americans). Strange that such simple trues to someone are not clear.



Putin certainly a headache for the West. With Yeltsin it was easier. Not without reason it name in the West the greatest Russian "democrat". Putin on the contrary as a bone in a throat, hence it "dictator". In Stalin's government there was a Minister for Foreign Affairs on a surname of Molotov, he spoke that if the foreign governments praise us, something means here not so and if us abuse, means we does all correctly. It on has lost urgencies and now.






Yeltsin was a democrat because he supported democracy and Putin a dictator because he destroyed it.

 

Other than that I agree. A credible defense against China involves AA around Moscow, just as the West does for Iran.


Yeltsin did not support democracy. Simply under democratic slogans there was a property repartition in interests of the new elite which has come in the stead to the party nomenclature. Thus the country was forced in chaos and national interests of Russia have been betrayed. Putin is not ideal, but it gradually corrects a situation. As to methods, probably other methods in Russia do not work.



 
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warpig       5/4/2010 12:30:36 PM
Thankfully, as usual, the hype of potential Russian weapons systems far outruns the reality--in this case with respect to how soon and how many.  Still, they may well get a few battlions beyond their one operational test and evaluation battalion site into operation within a year or three.  Hopefully it will take a while after that before they start exporting them.  Of course, if all they do is spend their operational lifespan ringing Moscow then we couldn't care less about them since there's no reason in the world for us to fly there.
 
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Russian S-400 missiles to go into serial production
RIA Novosti

30/04/201012:36

MOSCOW, April 30 (RIA Novosti) - Russian long range ballistic missiles for S-400 Triumph surface-to-air missile systems will go into serial production in the autumn, a leading missile manufacturer said on Friday.

Earlier media reports said the S-400 missile system was incomplete as long range ballistic missiles, among others, had not been adopted for it.

"On December 26, 2009 the preliminary tests were finished and the missile was put forward for state tests," Kommersant daily quoted the general director of Almaz-Antei, Igor Ashurbeili, as saying.

"In the third quarter of 2010 we should finish them, along with combat duty launches, and then put it [the missile] into serial production in the fourth quarter," he added.

According to Ashurbeili, there were no technical failures or difficulties concerning the long range missile tests.

"The tests of S-400 missile lasted for about 3 years...We are bewildered by the bacchanalia of rumors and slander concerning the issue as an ordinary working process is going on," he continued.

Ashurbeili added that the situation regarding the production of missiles after 2012 is unclear as Almaz-Antei does not have "any signed contracts for 2012".

The S-400 Triumph boasts unique characteristics. It can destroy any air target, including aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, and cruise and ballistic missiles within a range of 400 kilometers and an altitude up to 30 kilometers. The system is almost three times more efficient than its Russian and foreign counterparts.

There are no plans so far to export the S-400. It will be produced only for the Russian Armed Forces. An additional two systems will be deployed by the end of 2010.

 

 

 
 
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