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Avenger Gets A Bigger Laser

January 28, 2009: The U.S. has developed a mobile laser weapon for shooting down enemy UAVs. Unfortunately, none of our current opponents use many, if any, UAVs. This all began two years ago, when the U.S. put together an Avenger anti-aircraft system equipped with a one KW (kilowatt) laser. Back in late 2007, this rig was able to destroy two small UAVs on the ground. Apparently it took some time before a more powerful 2 KW laser could be found, that would fit on the Avenger turret, for use against airborne UAVs. The 1 KW laser was able to detonate IEDs and unexploded ordnance (shells and bombs). This, however, proved to be a solution for a problem that simply didn't show up very often.

The U.S. Army originally developed the Avenger system as a mobile anti-aircraft system. It's basically a hummer armed with Stinger surface-to-air missiles, a .50 caliber machinegun, radar and laser range finder. The hummer has a turret mounted on the back that contains two missile pods (each containing four Stinger anti-aircraft missiles). Under one pod there is an M3P .50 caliber (12.7mm) machine gun. The one KW laser was added to the turret.

The Avenger has a number of other quirks that limit its usefulness. The machine-gun can't be depressed sufficiently to fire at ground targets towards the front of the vehicle. The Stinger has a range of 4.5 kilometers, but the U.S. Army has not encountered enemy aircraft on the battlefield for over half a century. It's uncertain if enemy UAVs would be "hot" enough for the heat seeking Stinger to detect and home in on. Smaller UAVs are battery powered, and definitely run pretty cool. Larger ones use motors more like those found on lawnmowers or motorcycles. Effective range of the .50 caliber machine-gun is about two kilometers, and that could be used to take down enemy UAVs that flew close enough.

No information was released on the effective range of the laser 2 KW laser against airborne UAVs. This usually indicates that the performance was not particularly impressive (as in a range of only a kilometers or so). An improved set of sensors had to be installed in order to find the small UAVs that the 2 KW laser could damage sufficiently to bring down.

It appears that Laser Avenger is yet another laser weapon with potential, but not enough effectiveness to be useful on the battlefield. This has been the case with several recent laser weapons. But these systems have been getting more powerful, so it's only a matter of time before they are ready to displace some older weapon on the battlefield .

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doggtag    (ick...swiss cheese.)   1/28/2009 3:47:28 PM
Where to start?
Compare to the data provided here (even if Army-Technology.Com does have its occasional discrepancies also).
 
First: radar.
The Avenger has no radar.
It uses a FLIR, Forward Looking InfraRed, and an optical system, not a radar (see the Fire Control section).
It couples that to a laser range finder and other optical systems (read the Slue-to-Cue bit. A-T.C suggests funding was cut in 2003, but the classes at Redstone Arsenal Alabama was teaching Slue-to-Cue in 2005...).
 
Effectiveness of the laser.
Per the full Boeing release, it states: "...Laser Avenger achieved its principal test objectives by using its advanced targeting system to acquire and track three small UAVs flying against a complex background of mountains and desert. The laser system also shot down one of the UAVs from an operationally relevant range."
No mention what exactly an "operationally relevant range" is, but numerous smaller-form UAVs like the US Army uses have optical systems capable of several hundred meters range, some to a few km depending on whose sensors are installed in it.
 
The gun (any issues with its depression and traverse in engaging land targets.)
First here, it was originally never intended to be a ground target strafer.
But ingenuity, and the realization that the vehicle would even be lucky if it had 8 targets to destroy in rapid succession with Stingers, it was decided to make a modification to the system: as per A-T.C's entry, "In April 2005, eight Avenger vehicles in service in Iraq were modified for the ground security role. The right missile pod was removed and the M3P gun moved to the missile pod's position, enabling 360° firing at any angle or elevation. "
 
To the current configuration with the laser:
there is the pic I submitted (courtesy Defense-Aerospace.Com) at the thread entry here.
And the "original" laser Avenger, the one with the 1kW laser used in trials against IEDs and UXOs, looks like this:
 
In both models (1kW, 2kW), the gunner has been removed from the turret to make room for additional equipment.
The gun now projects from the front center of the turret, and in the main image here actually looks more like the Bushmaster 12.7mm than the M3P from the production Avenger (the concentric sleeve around the base of the barrel at the turret looks more like a Bushmaster series gun than it does the M3P).
The sensors (FLIR, EO, LRF) are now centrally located there around the gun, not under the opposite missile pod that the MG was under on production vehicles.
And still, no radar.
 
It could be that, RWS style, all the turret's controls are done from the crew cab now instead of needing to be in the turret as the production Avenger does.
Those silver metallic tanks at the back of the turret are, most likely, the chemical tanks: this is a chemical laser, not an electric-powered diode system.
 
It's still impressive nonetheless.
And if they (Boeing and associates) were able to double the output power from over a year ago, it's certainly a lot closer to being released to battlefield units sooner than many other laser weapons systems.
There may not be a ton of UAVs to be used against, but imaginative troops will find more uses for it,...despite any laws of land warfare concerns over what weapons cause more unnecessary suffering and which don't.
 
There's no mention how long (several seconds?) it actually takes the laser to destroy an inflight (UAV) or ground target (IED, UXO), but it obviously has other potential uses (disabling high voltage power lines and transformers, for instance? Or disabling civilian vehicles withot any evidence of the system being seen to fire its gun or missiles.).
 
Taking it further, the Stinger is the same 70mm/2.75inches in diameter as many of these precision guided rockets under development.
The vehicle already has optical fire control to engage targets at range, so it's certainly possible these rockets may be an option to replace Stingers where there aren't a lot of airborne threats.
Incorporating a laser designator won't be all that hard (I haven't been to Redstone in 3&1/2 years, hard to tell what other toys they're tinkering with since then).
 
As to the last paragraph above:
"It appears that Laser Avenger is yet another laser weapon with potential, but not enough effectiveness to be useful on the battlefield. This has been the case with several recent laser weapons. But these systems have been getting more powerful, so it's only a matter of time before they are ready to displace some older weapon on the battlefield ."
 
There's plenty of effectiveness in the system now (2kW laser, 50-cal MG, rocket box, effective passive observation optical system).
And I couldn't agree more it's only a matter of time.
 
 
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matisse    Thanks   1/29/2009 12:08:38 AM
What a great followup. Thank you.
 
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